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Old 06-20-2023, 09:56 PM
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A search for the term "Origen" nets results indicating you are attempting to Smurf from the lexicon of Gwaihir
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Old 06-20-2023, 10:16 PM
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In reviewing the archives for the term, this post by you; #18324, was a good post too:

Nod is said to be outside of the presence or face of God. Origen defined Nod as the land of trembling and wrote that it symbolized the condition of all who forsake God.[8] Early commentators treated it as the opposite of Eden (worse still than the land of exile for the rest of humanity). In the English tradition Nod was sometimes described as a desert inhabited only by ferocious beasts or monsters. Others interpreted Nod as dark or even underground—away from the face of God.[9]

Interesting fact; the term "face of God" in Hebrew is "P'ni-el" (which is etymologically related to the term "Pineal" denoting the pineal gland in the human brain.
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Old 06-20-2023, 10:34 PM
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A search for the term "Origen" nets results indicating you are attempting to Smurf from the lexicon of Gwaihir
I picked it because he is a proto-universalist who may or may not have castrated himself, don't read too much into it. I don't know who Gwaihir is, I learned about Origen through David Bentley Hart.

I'll criticize any transphobe, religious or secular. As usual, Ooloo is just making attempts to frame the argument in a way that he thinks he can control, but he doesn't seem to perceive how flat his arguments fall regardless of his "footing". Which, like his idol Ben Shapiro, is endearing, in a sense.
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I picked it because he is a proto-universalist who may or may not have castrated himself, don't read too much into it. I don't know who Gwaihir is, I learned about Origen through David Bentley Hart.

I'll criticize any transphobe, religious or secular. As usual, Ooloo is just making attempts to frame the argument in a way that he thinks he can control, but he doesn't seem to perceive how flat his arguments fall regardless of his "footing". Which, like his idol Ben Shapiro, is endearing, in a sense.
You should actually read Origen. Describing him as a Christian universalist is a bit of a stretch.
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Old 06-20-2023, 10:39 PM
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I'm sure those "Christian" universities will still go out of their way to make transgender students suffer, since things like that are the point of conservative "rhetoric"

It wouldn't be so widespread if conservatives were not so easily convinced of whatever reinforces their biases, but Alas, that problem is centuries old
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Old 06-20-2023, 10:41 PM
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Paraphrasing Hart when I call him that, I'm new as hell to all of this. I was as agnostic as the next asshole until about a year ago
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Paraphrasing Hart when I call him that, I'm new as hell to all of this. I was as agnostic as the next asshole until about a year ago
Seriously though. You should read Against Celsum. It's a really good read. On top of that, you'll see how many of the exact same arguments are still utilized by those who would criticize and denigrate the faith, both exoteric and esoteric aspects alike.

For example, there are people that still clutch the pearls of Jesus Christ being born of the adulterous union of the Roman Legionaire Panthera and Mary despite this specific point being soundly refuted in the first book of Against Celsum, and it's far from the only "criticism" of the narrative still being bandied about by doggedly hateful anti-christians.
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Old 06-20-2023, 11:05 PM
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I will absolutely read his work, thank you. I've heard it's an excellent foil but I usually find myself arguing with Christians, not defending them. I started in a small group a few weeks ago and boy-oh-boy do I have very little in common with southern Evangelical types. Nice houses, though!

I have been reading Hart's "The Story of Christianity" this week, lots of these older Church Fathers being bandied about and it's an endless series of reads about some of these folks.

I do think it is a mistake being made by the actual nebulous left, the rejection of all spiritualism, generally speaking.
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Old 06-20-2023, 11:08 PM
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I do think it is a mistake being made by the actual nebulous left, the rejection of all spiritualism, generally speaking.
no mistake, it's by design

the state must be the highest authority in the universe for their marxist ideas to get off the ground
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