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Old 01-30-2025, 09:20 PM
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The concept of putting a bell on a cat to curtail it's hunting prowess actually made it a better more silent hunter.

Limiting access of the latest graphics chips to China actually made their efforts at making A.I more strealined.

Consider they needed to write very memory efficient algorithms to process the data given that limitation.

Therefore US and A actually helped China win.

Discuss.

Also china has limitless access to users data and a billion people from which to scrape from.

US and A will soon be the same, albiet with a third of the user data. The way that the new gov is ripping away protections of various departments you lot will just get told what you can and cant do, so in the end the residents of the US and A may win again, at the cost of their digital freedums.
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Old 01-30-2025, 09:24 PM
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The concept of putting a bell on a cat to curtail it's hunting prowess actually made it a better more silent hunter.

Limiting access of the latest graphics chips to China actually made their efforts at making A.I more strealined.

Consider they needed to write very memory efficient algorithms to process the data given that limitation.

Therefore US and A actually helped China win.

Discuss.
Why not several bells? Rig that kitty for war.

Then it can go like the clappers.
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Old 01-30-2025, 09:40 PM
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Sure. Just dont discuss the real part of the question.

Also multiple bells were tried. Many of the fuckers just got so good they were virtual tv ninja like in silent movement.

They literally have all day to hone the skills.

How about that sports ball team hey? Anything but the subject...
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Old 01-30-2025, 09:44 PM
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whats the difference between 1 intel chip or 1000 SMIC chips when you can build 2 coal fired power plants per week, no regulation on pollution, no federal judges to tell you to stop, no labor unions, no hippies regulating you out of business, and a government that decides on a whim what their currency is worth?

it was never to hinder their progress, it was to prevent them from studying our most advanced tech

yeah they'll figure out other ways to do things, but they won't know how we did what we are doing

anything the CCP says should be taken with a massive grain of salt, this is a group of people who believe 1984 is an instruction manual on how to implement das kapital

deepseek can say they did something for 1/1000th of the cost, because they don't have to report what the CCP paid for. We can't forget that every single chinese company is a de facto arm of the CCP
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Old 01-30-2025, 09:54 PM
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NVIDIA's dominance in AI is largely due to CUDA, a dedicated architecture and software ecosystem that simplifies using their GPUs for AI workloads. While technically possible to use AMD (ROCm) or Intel (oneAPI) GPUs, the AI software world is built around CUDA. This makes it much harder for developers to use competitor hardware, as popular frameworks like TensorFlow and PyTorch are optimized for CUDA. It's not that "nobody knows how" to use AMD's platform, but rather that the ecosystem is less mature and requires more effort. AMD faces a real challenge in gaining traction, as fewer users lead to less software support, creating a difficult cycle. While AMD and Intel are working to improve their offerings, it's a tough competitive landscape, not a "hilarious" situation. The core issue is the software and developer familiarity, not just the hardware itself.
stream of conscious into'd the LLM and let it fact check what i remembered, so in theory you can buy time by just controlling the supply of Nvida chips, then it doesn't matter what you're doing with power plants or regulations, we're focusing on powering the data centers with natural gas because we have so much of it. and i doubt DARPA or whatever Black project is running behind the scenes gives a shit about the rest of the normal imbalances and advantages China would have. they didn't care about data rights after 9/11 with PRISM and all the other programs. i'd bet money we're doing more insane illegal shit as a country building this than China is right now
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Old 01-30-2025, 10:16 PM
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i'd bet money we're doing more insane illegal shit as a country building this than China is right now
Definitionally. China is not a nation of laws.
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Old 01-30-2025, 10:23 PM
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Sure, but we're projecting our values onto them while pretending to have the moral high ground while never applying our own laws to ourselves when it involves matters of national security, and i used post 911 as an example, even in the 90s they were doing illegal shit to big brother data collect with Echelon and all the other buzzword NSA programs

us being free and claiming they aren't, is some literal boomer tier cope. were more alike than different
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Old 01-30-2025, 10:44 PM
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The concept of putting a bell on a cat to curtail it's hunting prowess actually made it a better more silent hunter.
we should make everyone in the army wear bells!
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Old 01-30-2025, 10:45 PM
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The more chips joined with slower bus speeds the more latwncy. An on chip faster solution would allow theoretically faster computaional speeds. This assumes equal quality algorithms. Clearly the chinese algorithms are quicker including the hobbling of their access to chip tech.

Also lmao. You think the chinese don't have the latest intel shit? That's so cute. Anywho.

Lesser chips doing better work = better devs that use resources with superior utility. Sorry guys it's just common sense.
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Old 01-30-2025, 10:47 PM
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I was just thinking how eventually we'll have full body walking Ai assistants right?

And we'll be like, "Hey can you go mute the TV while the commercials are on?"

And it will say, "No."
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