2020 Election MEGAthread

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But yes though, it is worth it. Had we not the estimates are around 2 million americans, by trumps and the CDC count.

Also, the important thing about drastic measures for flu and why we dont do them is known: coronaviruses rarely infect humans and mutate slowly, so when they do you can quarantine them and they will die. Influenza you cannot do that, because of the way they mutates very quickly.

Covid: 1-2 years of hard work, save a lot of lives.
Flu: you would have to live like this forever to save lives every year, and that's asking too much.

It's not like I want to outlaw going outside because muggings happen, you know?

And as for the economy, trumps portion of the job was to make that work while the medical pro's do the medicine, but he got it backwards.

Well that seems at odds with what happened; it *did* infect the population of wuhan rapidly and it also mutated within a couple months. The sars-cov-2 infecting america and elsewhere has been identified as a european variant; it's much more transmissible than what took place in wuhan but also much less lethal. Viruses don't survive by killing their hosts.

And you still haven't really answered the economic question. If the goal is the preservation of human life, it's not at all clear that more human life has been saved by these measures compared to the effects of a disease with an overwhelmingly high survival rate. If this had occured under obama, I absolutely guarantee the left would not be saying "obama totally botched this!!". They'd be saying "he did everything he could, he's not a fortune teller, he can't see the future" which again brings up my main point; why is this so drastically politicized?? How can we change things so that in the future if a totally unforseen huge emergency happens, we don't all start blaming one another for what is basically an act of nature?

[Toad1]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right that they are different categories of virus, but corona viruses are not uniquely dangerous just by virtue of being corona viruses. The reason people are comparing this to the flu is because we do not take such drastic measures to prevent the spread of the flu. The current virus at issue almost never kills young people, whereas influenza frequently does. There is certainly a lot more to be learned about it, but the scientific method reveals new information every day about any given disease. We certainly understand it better now than we did in January or February, and the fundamental question continues to be: is it worth the collateral impacts of locking down state and local economies indefinitely to control the spread of sars-cov-2 given it's apparent danger profile? It really should not be a partisan question, the fact that the answer breaks almost perfectly upon partisan political lines is alarming.

There are over 500 million different corona viruses

Covid19 is a bacteria that severely inhibits oxygen absorption in the lungs killing unhealthy people and making even healthy ones VERY SICK if they are genetically prone to it.

Flu kills everyone equally

the difference?

Flu is short term, covid is long term, i had symptoms for 4 months and there were periods where i was getting worse for a long time, this wears you down and kills people.

[Castle2.0]

When I asked you if you knew the difference between an influenza virus and a corona virus you called me a draconian Marxist.

Must have missed that one. Feel free to link or provide full quotes of me saying "Jibartik you are a draconian Marxist."

I already posted IFR rates of both and what would happen if 1 million or all schoolkids got it, and if 1 million or all prime age working people got it. It's pretty weak for the young and healthy. Open up. /thread

[Jibartik]

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] you are like an AI and machine learning bot version of that character from the American horror story show I accused you of imitating everything you say is exactly what his dialogue is.

[Woke Locc]

why is it okay to murder grampa through negligence

[Patriam1066]

It’s not, had Trump said “we must defeat the China virus, mask up,” they’d all be in hazmat suits

[Toad1]

what topgunben is trying to say most democrats dont vote because showing up at a poll is too hard when you are a gigantic fucking loser

making it easy ( phone or mail in ) makes more democrats vote and as such will win every election

i believe in fairness, and i want everyone to participate ( This is america )

even tho 90% of people in the US Are confused about their lives and their future

[Gwaihir]

If Biden was a campaigning genious, he wouldve made a series of ads with people stating, "Im ridin' with Biden": ""Stop the Madness -Biden 2020""with the double quotations encapsulating his campaign slogan, but hes a lkmp dick geriatric.

[Toad1]

All part of pelosis plan to make it look like her 25th amendment scam targets trump and as soon as biden wins he steps down for kamala

[Castle2.0]

I think our left friends didn't see the obvious connections between 2016 and 2020 polls. Here, let's try that again =)

"Oof them dern facts again."