Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll sum it up for you if you don't want to read hundreds of pages..

DSM claims shamans can keep up with mage dps by root rotting adds off to the side, and also brought in a 5th cleric in a 4 man optimal group thread. Yet he posted a video of his shaman doing about 5 dps in a group.

Literally moved every goalpost possible to get his shaman bias belonging in a 4 man caster group, it was typical nonsense.

Yeah, continuing to push shaman after everybody - literally EVERYBODY - disagreed with him was just bias. Shaman are terrible in groups unless there are warriors, monks, and/or rogues included. Enchanter is going to be vastly superior in a caster only group.

It's so odd that he decided to add a fifth member and make it a cleric as opposed to a second shaman. That's so offbrand, even for DSM.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, continuing to push shaman after everybody - literally EVERYBODY - disagreed with him was just bias. Shaman are terrible in groups unless there are warriors, monks, and/or rogues included. Enchanter is going to be vastly superior in a caster only group.

It's so odd that he decided to add a fifth member and make it a cleric as opposed to a second shaman. That's so offbrand, even for DSM.

Yea I think at one point he also argued shamans are better for enchanters than clerics but resorted to the pocket cleric when he realized he didn't have an argument for rez.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea I think at one point he also argued shamans are better for enchanters than clerics but resorted to the pocket cleric when he realized he didn't have an argument for rez.

Yeah, in shaman/enc duo, shaman brings redundancy, bad pets, and heals worse than a cleric.

I'd rather have a druid TBH. At least the druid can port, give POTG, charm, and DS the pet.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Crede can keep incorrectly summarizing a three year old thread if he wishes. People can read it if they want the truth.

He has to go off topic as he can't even win an argument in this thread.

It is just sad that after multiple years he still claims a static group of four players cannot log into a pocket cleric account. He has had a pocket cleric since 2014. If the static group of four players was a guild with just those four players, the pocket cleric would be a guid bot. All guilds use guild bots.

Back on topic:

Reposting OP's epic video where he kills Fungi King solo with his monk, no consumables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge

It deserves the highest ranking of [S] when following the solo artist challenge wiki page. Please note the wiki page was changed after OP did his video, and the changes are still in dispute. [S+] did not exist as a rank previously.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right, but that sounds like what's best for a bunch of whiny forum posters that each feel the need to force their opinion on everyone else.

What page(s) would be best for the community?

For the two posters (Zuranthium and Samoht) who have a different idea of what a solo challenge is to make their own solo challenge. It's really that simple.

I am literally just advocating for the solo artist page to remain as-is before Zuranthium and Samoht's edits. Neither side gets their changes. I haven't proposed any changes.

This is the fairest solution. Since both parties cannot agree, the wiki page does not change.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is just sad that after multiple years he still claims a static group of four players cannot log into a pocket cleric account. He has had a pocket cleric since 2014. If the static group of four players was a guild with just those four players, the pocket cleric would be a guid bot. All guilds use guild bots.

The official definition of static is "lacking in movement, action, or change, especially in a way viewed as undesirable or uninteresting".

Why would a static caster group of 4 care to make a change to log on a cleric when they could simply have them in their own group as clerics are more desirable than shamans to enchanters in every way possible.

Not only are you trying to change the definition of static, but you are just making this group even more inefficient by trying to continuously bring in a shaman. If that thread had said ideal 4 man group + pocket char, then you may be onto something there as you could probably just pocket the shaman for outside buffs if so desired(I think a pocket mage would still be preferred). But unfortunately for your sake it didn't, and you only continue to look more pathetic the more you spread lies about it.

I can't wait to see this new wiki update reflecting the proper feelings of the community and the dated one moved into a Kunark archive somewhere.

[Samoht]

So wait, what was his fourth character then? Since he refused to cut the shaman for the mage/necro, he cut the cleric instead?

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, in shaman/enc duo, shaman brings redundancy, bad pets, and heals worse than a cleric.

I'd rather have a druid TBH. At least the druid can port, give POTG, charm, and DS the pet.

Exactly. it was a mess. But to no surprise nobody was actually convinced besides DSM that a shaman actually belonged in that static group.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The official definition of static is "lacking in movement, action, or change, especially in a way viewed as undesirable or uninteresting".

Why would a static caster group of 4 care to make a change to log on a cleric when they could simply have them in their own group as clerics are more desirable than shamans to enchanters in every way possible.

Not only are you trying to change the definition of static, but you are just making this group even more inefficient by trying to continuously bring in a shaman. If that thread had said ideal 4 man group + pocket char, then you may be onto something there. But unfortunately for your sake it didn't, and you only continue to look more pathetic the more you spread lies about it.

I can't wait to see this new wiki update reflecting the proper feelings of the community and the dated one moved into a Kunark archive somewhere.

Crede is claiming a guild with four members in it is not allowed to have guild bots. I disagree with this idea.

Back on topic:

Reposting OP's epic video where he kills Fungi King solo with his monk, no consumables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

https://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge

It deserves the highest ranking of [S] when following the solo artist challenge wiki page. Please note the wiki page was changed after OP did his video, and the changes are still in dispute. [S+] did not exist as a rank previously.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For the two posters (Zuranthium and Samoht) who have a different idea of what a solo challenge is to make their own solo challenge. It's really that simple

But it's not just two posters! It's obvious: there are more soloers out there than the five or so people participating in this thread.

Let's say someone drives to Zura and Samo's house tonight and murders them: will that conclusively settle the "right" way to solo? I guarantee you it will not, and in a week, a month, or a year someone will disagree with you again.

My point is, there is no official way to solo, and there never will be. For this reason, the wiki will never be in the business of deciding the "right way" to solo. You (and everyone else in this thread) need to accept that fact.

Thus:

I am literally just advocating for the solo artist page to remain as-is before Zuranthium and Samoht's edits. Neither side gets their changes. I haven't proposed any changes.

This is the fairest solution. Since both parties cannot agree, the wiki page does not change.

is not the best solution, because it's still picking a side. If the wiki is going to have an "official" Solo Artist Challenge page, then that page needs to be for all solo artists.