14 Children and Teacher Killed in Texas Elementary School Shooting

[Duik]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vests aren't all the same and different ones give different levels of protection. The large majority of vests used in daily wear by law enforcement are going to be designed to be proof against commonly-encountered pistol rounds--9mm, .45's, and the like. I never wore one that was proof against more than something like a magnum. A rifle round would've gone right through them. High-power rifles are a different animal entirely, with dramatically greater penetration. They'll shoot through cinderblock walls. Body armor that can resist such rounds exists, but unless things have greatly changed in the past 5-10 years, it's seldom worn on the street due to bulk and discomfort. It's hot and miserable. Even where armor can resist those types of rounds the person wearing it is still likely to be injured from the blunt force of the impact.

Danth

Deflect. Waa waa waa, answered the question not. Anywho.
So we had cops complaining they had no gear. Cant go in.
Volunteer law abiding parents trying to use their courage to save their kids hindered and actively stopped from being the good guy with a gun. (Just like you all want and constantly rave about why yas need guns. Agree btw)
As stated before. Off duty, and unarmored, with a borrowed gun was more use. And was not hindered.
You guys be crazy defending these cops. And i know, the cops dont hafta defend you. But did they have to hinder?
Anywho, blah blah body armor is no good. We need guns to protect ourselves fro da gubbament. Libtards suck and NRA wanna protect kids by arming teachers with no body armor... circle begins.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anywho, blah blah body armor is no good. We need guns to protect ourselves fro da gubbament. Libtards suck and NRA wanna protect kids by arming teachers with no body armor... circle begins.

What on Earth? I type a little bit about vests and that's what you get out of it? How? Is there some sort of alternate universe you're posting from? It doesn't make sense! I don't particularly want to arm anyone (heck in another post I openly advocate for dis-arming the police and federal law enforcement, and I meant it) and I sure as heck don't want to turn schools into defacto prisons or armed camps. How the heck are you supposed to bring up people to value freedom and liberty when they've spent their entire childhood locked up and treated like inmates?


Danth

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What on Earth? I type a little bit about vests and that's what you get out of it? How? Is there some sort of alternate universe you're posting from?

Crickey! hold still mate..

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[starkind]

Everything has been designed so civilians aka civilization is dependent and at the mercy of the factory. Those factories are satanic. Most are not in US even. Hth.

[starkind]

There is a housing insurance crisis where I live because hurricanes be crazy and 90% of houses don't meet code or are old like from 1955 old.

Also rich ppl hoping to grab up condemned and abandoned properties.


It's extremely disconcerting for the government to be disarming us right now..

Yall know me I hate seeing kids die for any reason. Yet we should all be in highly organized militias and our government is bad.

[starkind]

When the rules favor the 10% so extremely or ppl who only pretend to live in the US who really have private island, yachts, and multiple properties in several countries. Instead of the mechanic down at the local garage, which is owned by international firms btw Instead of the guy.

You aren't going to save children by turning Americans into defenseless refugees.

[starkind]

Civvies should be allowed to wear buy and sell the variety Danth talks about at all times. Dumb it's so restricted.

There's some prohibitively expensive coats and dresses extremely in*famous* ppl can afford and get permitted for that are slightly more effective. They're illegal without permits tho.

Anyway the average firepower, protection, and training of the average citizen is laughably limited already.

A full scale rebellion would be put down extremely fast unless enough regular army defected. And that's different than a rebellion. That's a civil war which would be more likely. Yet still very unlikely.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Civvies should be allowed to wear buy and sell the variety Danth talks about at all times. Dumb it's so restricted.

There's some prohibitively expensive coats and dresses extremely in*famous* ppl can afford and get permitted for that are slightly more effective. They're illegal without permits tho.

Anyway the average firepower, protection, and training of the average citizen is laughably limited already.

A full scale rebellion would be put down extremely fast unless enough regular army defected. And that's different than a rebellion. That's a civil war which would be more likely. Yet still very unlikely.

People from my culture: [had a shotgun rack] - no one batted an eye

Foreign people commenting on my culture: "OMG ROFL THE SKY IS BURNING OMG ITS CIVIL UNREST OMG MILITARY WEAPONS OMG RUSSIAN HAX OMG UKRAINE OMG STARBUCKS IS ON FIRE!! OMG OLD GRANDPAS ARE JOHN RAMBO OMG BLOOD AND GUTS OMG ARE WE FUCKING CRAZY OMG MENTAL HEALTH OMG"

People from my culture: What the fuck is that!?..

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People from my culture: [had a shotgun rack] - no one batted an eye

Foreign people commenting on my culture: "OMG ROFL THE SKY IS BURNING OMG ITS CIVIL UNREST OMG MILITARY WEAPONS OMG RUSSIAN HAX OMG UKRAINE OMG STARBUCKS IS ON FIRE!! OMG OLD GRANDPAS ARE JOHN RAMBO OMG BLOOD AND GUTS OMG ARE WE FUCKING CRAZY OMG MENTAL HEALTH OMG"

People from my culture: What the fuck is that!?..

Yeah man. Well Starbucks bruh. (I am not bruhhing u I know u don't like that, figure of speech).

We are pretty fucked tho cuz corps like Walmart and economy must go brrrr so ppl lose their autonomy.

My city was nicer when the pop was literally 20k in the summer. It's now over 200,000 all year and the farms, groves, are dying, gone. Just hanging on the periphery. Our food plants shut down replaced with Walmarts, trailer parks, meth, and 500,000 homes on the main commuter route. All these used to be groves, cattle farms. Our blm land isn't for hunters or hikers anymore It's for big corps. They got projects out there clear cutting and shit. It's all gone to hell and fenced off.

Real Americans don't own or run anything here. Just lazy middle managers and administrators on the dole who won the syndication lottery or got family ties to big China plastic crap.

We got a few individual ppl hanging on on the edges where it's commercial, residential, they can't grow their businesses tho.

[unsunghero]

Joe Biden apparently wants to ban 9mm now

He said the 9mm bullet “blows the lung out of the body” when compared to a 22 round and questions why it’s needed

I think this might be why US politicians with no police or military experience probably shouldn’t comment on this kind of stuff. I’m far from a gun expert but I’m pretty sure people AND police use higher caliber rounds because they STOP the target and knock it back. If a person was charging you with a knife and got just a few feet away, shooting him with a .22 could still result in you being stabbed and then both of you dying. But shooting with a higher caliber round might completely stop that charge

That’s how it’s been explained to me, maybe someone should explain it to Joe Biden. This is the same tactical brainiac that said before after police negatively mentioned in the news that police should stop shooting for center mass and instead “shoot for the leg”. Why not shoot the gun out of the other person’s hand then, Joe?