Top end guilds ruining the server as usual - Page 8

falkun · #71 02-20-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Enygma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

VD killed trak when it was supposed to be ... BDA?'s turn...

Thus ending the great rotation!

Who controls the present now controls the past. VD killed VD's Traks, that is all.

falkun · #72 02-20-2013, 04:13 PM

And it was 2011-2012, Nlaar, its been about a year!

Byrjun · #73 02-20-2013, 04:22 PM

FTE... who gets what raid mob... none of it matters since the endgame has been fucking ruined by greed. EverQuest is a game. It's supposed to be fun to play, not a job.

Remember what was fun? Attempting VS for the first time and wiping, then refining your strategy until you get your first kill. That shit doesn't happen here since the mobs are dead within 45 seconds anyways. Everyone is treating raid targets like pixel pinatas.

Poopsocking didn't happen on live. Why? Because people played the game to have fun. Logging your main out for a week in Trak's lair wasn't fun then and it still isn't now. What was fun was when Trak popped and guilds started mobilizing to get there first, as most people were actually playing the game and doing shit, not just sitting there camped out with full raid buffs ready to go.

So everyone's mad and they're blaming each other, the game, or worse, blaming the fucking developers for not putting FTE shouts or whatever bullshit in the game. Fuck you. It's not the devs' job to design systems around your shitty playstyles. Don't want to poopsock/FTE? Then fucking go do something else, remove variance, and when the mob spawns go fucking kill it. Then you know exactly who engaged it first, and it's not a KS race.

I don't blame TMO at all. I mostly blame FE. This isn't a flame, but we've all seen FE wipe to Cazic Thule, Gorenaire, and Trakanon in the past couple weeks. The last time FE got Trak, it was because there were nearly 200 people all engaged at the same time. When FE gets a chance at a mob on their own, they usually fail. So not only is FTE dumb, guilds use it as a crutch to get kills they really have no business fucking with in the first place.

It reminds me of the beginning of the server when IB beat all the raid mobs because they had all the best players. Then Transcendence decided hey, they want to raid too! So they cried until GMs forced a rotation. They then proceeded to wipe to their target(s) every week, and then IB would come in and kill it after the ridiculous 24 hour engage timer expired.

It's EverQuest, only the most capable guilds should get the most highly contested mobs. The only way to do that is for the players to man up and agree to stop poopsocking. That's on you guys, not the creators of the game and especially not the fucking devs.

Hailto · #74 02-20-2013, 04:28 PM

If you guys want raid kills why don't you spend the effort you're putting into crying on the forums about a rotation and challenge TMO? I assure you its much more rewarding, I'm having more fun on this server right now than I have had at any other time.

Cecily · #75 02-20-2013, 04:29 PM

^ FE is bad, therefore only tmo should kill things.

Tiggles · #76 02-20-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FTE... who gets what raid mob... none of it matters since the endgame has been fucking ruined by greed. EverQuest is a game. It's supposed to be fun to play, not a job.

Remember what was fun? Attempting VS for the first time and wiping, then refining your strategy until you get your first kill. That shit doesn't happen here since the mobs are dead within 45 seconds anyways. Everyone is treating raid targets like pixel pinatas.

Poopsocking didn't happen on live. Why? Because people played the game to have fun. Logging your main out for a week in Trak's lair wasn't fun then and it still isn't now. What was fun was when Trak popped and guilds started mobilizing to get there first, as most people were actually playing the game and doing shit, not just sitting there camped out with full raid buffs ready to go.

So everyone's mad and they're blaming each other, the game, or worse, blaming the fucking developers for not putting FTE shouts or whatever bullshit in the game. Fuck you. It's not the devs' job to design systems around your shitty playstyles. Don't want to poopsock/FTE? Then fucking go do something else, remove variance, and when the mob spawns go fucking kill it. Then you know exactly who engaged it first, and it's not a KS race.

I don't blame TMO at all. I mostly blame FE. This isn't a flame, but we've all seen FE wipe to Cazic Thule, Gorenaire, and Trakanon in the past couple weeks. The last time FE got Trak, it was because there were nearly 200 people all engaged at the same time. When FE gets a chance at a mob on their own, they usually fail. So not only is FTE dumb, guilds use it as a crutch to get kills they really have no business fucking with in the first place.

It reminds me of the beginning of the server when IB beat all the raid mobs because they had all the best players. Then Transcendence decided hey, they want to raid too! So they cried until GMs forced a rotation. They then proceeded to wipe to their target(s) every week, and then IB would come in and kill it after the ridiculous 24 hour engage timer expired.

It's EverQuest, only the most capable guilds should get the most highly contested mobs. The only way to do that is for the players to man up and agree to stop poopsocking. That's on you guys, not the creators of the game and especially not the fucking devs.

This guy

Cecily · #77 02-20-2013, 04:30 PM

Not you Halito. The boring person above you.

falkun · #78 02-20-2013, 04:33 PM

So you like wiping because refining your strat and not wiping is fun and exciting, but you are mad at the guild who is wiping and refining its strats?

I'll agree that both guilds have to agree to stop poopsocking for anything to change, but neither side appears to be able to agree to more than the server rules, which permit socks.

Maultriss · #79 02-20-2013, 04:41 PM

To be fair, the last trak we killed we mobilized faster, fte'd faster, and killed Trak. It wasn't a 200 man poopsock. Also, to be fair, BDA started that 200 man poopsock as well as many others. TMO and FE sure as hell aren't the only ones poopsocking.

Hailto · #80 02-20-2013, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The last time FE got Trak, it was because there were nearly 200 people all engaged at the same time. When FE gets a chance at a mob on their own, they usually fail. So not only is FTE dumb, guilds use it as a crutch to get kills they really have no business fucking with in the first place.

Sorry bro, but this shows how little you actually know what you're talking about. The last time FE got Trak, which was the last 2-3 spawns in a row now, but the latest one there was zero poopsock at all. Trak spawned very early into the window, and FE simply out mobilized TMO on it, Tiggles even made a post admitting it.