Monk Epic Fist... is it REALLY that good?

[Tasslehofp99]

I think this is due to the fact that h2h skill for monks caps a lot lower than 1hb, so when you're using AC/SOS your Atk rating is a lot higher. Atleast that may have Something to do with it.

[heazels]

the only thing that matters with monk is picking an iksar, you may as well delete your character if you didnt.

[Vicatin]

Originally Posted by heazels [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the only thing that matters with monk is picking an iksar, you may as well delete your character if you didnt.

This is silly. I agree iksar is the better option, but min-maxing isnt for everyone.

[Vohl]

Originally Posted by Vicatin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is silly. I agree iksar is the better option, but min-maxing isnt for everyone.

With the Velious endgame, such as the Shroud of Longevity and 10th Ring, racial bennies are overshadowed by gear effects to the point where you could choose by appearance. If you're going for BotB, Iksar is probably still the way to go.

I'd add that Iksar need a lot more faction work than agnostic human if you want to bind and adventure anywhere outside of Cabilis.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Vohl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With the Velious endgame, such as the Shroud of Longevity and 10th Ring, racial bennies are overshadowed by gear effects to the point where you could choose by appearance. If you're going for BotB, Iksar is probably still the way to go.

I'd add that Iksar need a lot more faction work than agnostic human if you want to bind and adventure anywhere outside of Cabilis.

sneak and feign death go a long way to negating the faction issues.

[Splorf22]

I just looked it up and H2H does indeed cap 7 points lower according to the wiki. That makes a lot of sense Verant!

Also the primary job of a monk is pulling, and that really isn't very gear dependent, unless you count javelins and such. So I'm going to go with 'race-isn't-that-important-for-a-monk'.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Ryba [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no parse info here but t staff plus epic haste is better than any droppable 1h combo with epic haste, including h2h. 2hb skill cap is higher and dmg bonus is higher than with h2h. That means much higher guaranteed minimums with higher hit ratios. The epic is for song haste, not primarily for weapon replacement, unless you have crap.

not only that, if you are "epically-fisting" a raid target that gets turned unexpectedly, you will be shattered by ripostes before you can turn auto attack off.

2hb is the tits, from 20-60. Unless you are trying to roleplay or something, in which case you have other problems to focus on

What he says. Still the same now.

[kotton05]

^ I also think I read somewhere the wu's quivering beats most 1hb combo's as well.

[Kutsumo]

My monk is level 52 so I only have a 9 1h dmg bonus, but even in this case epic fist is parsing more than AC in mainhand for me. I've been soloing in Sol B all weekend and decided to do some extended parsing on a few weapon combinations. I killed about 60 sonic bats with each (epic fist/SoS and AC/SoS) and the fist averaged 6dps more overall (37 vs 43). Sure, there can be variance in this sample size but it's enough to convince me to leave fist mainhand. I could also note that tranquil staff was averaging less than AC/SoS for the 30ish kills that I used it for before switching back to DW.

This may all change between 52 and 60, but for now it's fist/AC or fist/SoS for me.

edit: for those asking about tstaff proc, I haven't had it last longer than 3 seconds on a mob before it starts hitting me again yet. They begin swinging again a couple of seconds before the message that it wore off.

[arsenalpow]

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