Where did WoW go right?

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Did anyone play the early days of EQ2? Group XP penalty if anyone in the party died. Got trained and wiped? Wave goodbye to your XP :P

Sorry, bit of a derail... funny to think though, that EQ2 is generally considered a total failure. I blame the high end PC required to run it (WoW could be played on a much lower spec), poor group mechanics and the ridiculous attempts they made to implement PvP.

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The second half of this thread is more representative of the average WoW player. Maybe they just started to chime in!

[bluntfang]

Originally Posted by Atmas

You are so overly defensive of WoW you can't even seperate who has said what.

That's because everyone keeps repeating the same thing that has been addressed by square and others ad infinitum as "responses" to square's arguments.

Their response to timesink != difficulty? But Timesinks are difficult!

Their response to encounters being more complex in WoW? But EQ Encouters are less forgiving and thus more complex!

square is the only one trying to have a discussion, but everyone else seems to be stuck on the few things that "made EQ great" in a thread about what made WoW great.

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by bluntfang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

stuck on the few things that "made EQ great" in a thread about what made WoW great.

See there it goes again, and I guess a lot of it is my fault for being bated. I never said timesinks made EQ great.

I made a post in this thread way earlier about what I thought WoW did right in becoming a huge financial success.

Later down the line when Square was arguing with people I tried to make a non-opininated post about the "new subject" and he came out with a condscending post much like he had done to some other people.

What WoW did right is pretty apparent, just people tend to phrase it in ways based on their opinion. Someone says they made it more accessible and someone else uses the words too easy.

[Dirtnap]

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What WoW did right is pretty apparent, just people tend to phrase it in ways based on their opinion. Someone says they made it more accessible and someone else uses the words too easy.

Pretty much the whole discussion.

[bluntfang]

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What WoW did right is pretty apparent, just people tend to phrase it in ways based on their opinion. Someone says they made it more accessible and someone else uses the words too easy.

So you say you're intelligent enough to discern the difference between a fact phrased as an opinion and an opinion, yet you still post here telling people that they are making opinions and not stating fact? What exactly is your purpose in this thread if not a poor attempt at trolling?

[Dirtnap]

Originally Posted by bluntfang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you say you're intelligent enough to discern the difference between a fact phrased as an opinion and an opinion, yet you still post here telling people that they are making opinions and not stating fact? What exactly is your purpose in this thread if not a poor attempt at trolling?

Whenever someone says a game's aspect is better, it is an opinion. The fact in his statement, was that people are stating the same opinion in a different way.

Edited for clarity.

[Dirtnap]

Originally Posted by square [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also though you were done here? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I always love these. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I meant I wasn't going to continue discussing this. It has turned into an "I'm right because you can't tell me anything to change my mind." argument.

I'm just trying to add a little more clarity to some of the points raised, that I was trying to get across.

EDIT: You judge other people's opinions as uneducated, when you have no idea if it is actually educated or not.

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by bluntfang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you say you're intelligent enough to discern the difference between a fact phrased as an opinion and an opinion, yet you still post here telling people that they are making opinions and not stating fact? What exactly is your purpose in this thread if not a poor attempt at trolling?

Actually if you go back I made a post on the intial topic have you?

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by square [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did say I appreciated your post you know. The fact you are overly sensitive on the internet is not my fault. Also, look up non-opinionated and reread your initial post I responded to.

People like hatediny started a debate, and quickly ran from the debate. Whether you found my posts rude or not, call me a jerk, but at least respond to the things I've wrote. Here's my favorite that no one has answered: Why do you need to defend EQ on a classic EQ forum?

I don't see the need to sugar coat my posts, because you shouldn't take offense to what I say, as I promise you I'm not truly trying to offend you. I break up posts in quote form, and address the points, yet no one seems to do the same thing, they only call me names and say I'm a jerk, well I guess that means I'm right and rude. I'll take that.

Lets see:
Don't always have the time to break up posts. Your breaking up posts doesn't always mean you are answering each point.

People may not answer some of your questions because they are distracted by your tone. If you really want answers maybe less negative conotation. Or direct them to someone. One might ask why you feel the need to defend WoW on an EQ forum? Anyone can say something nasty and have no basis for an argument so it is generally a tool used in that capacity.

I really don't think anyone who has played any online game for more than a week could be overly sensitive to be honest.

Yes my post had opinion about which was more difficult but not about which game was better.