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[Dullah]

Server will populate fine when trash is finally taken out or they quit of grief and shame. Even if the trash is taken out right now, there will be plenty left to pvp.

[Albane]

Best time this server had was the time when Holocaust was disbanded and most members were banned. Then they let them back on and the server continued it's spiral into shit.

[Rydar]

Originally Posted by Albane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Best time this server had was the time when Holocaust was disbanded and most members were banned. Then they let them back on and the server continued it's spiral into shit.

So true. My spys tell me they are in a death spiral now anyways because they can't kill them bawses and FF's has them corpse camped more often then not.

Soon the server will heal.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Albane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Best time this server had was the time when Holocaust was disbanded and most members were banned. Then they let them back on and the server continued it's spiral into shit.

Sit back kiddies, pull up a log and sit by the fire, let me tell you a story.

It was back in December, holo and nihilum had equal numbers at the time and lovely had just quit. Holo controlled Guk, and Nihilum controlled Sol B. If you were a member of Holo you knew if you tried to go to the LS area by yourself you were going to get murked, and vice versa for Nihilum in Guk. The areas were defended and used for gearing/leveling. Often, nightly, one guild would invade the other and mass PVP for the sake of PVP would ensue. Fun was had and numerous corpses were left at the end. You see, mass guild vs. guild PVP happened for no other reason than to have mass guild PVP.

Nihilum had been clearing Naggy up to this point using the Lovely wall exploit learned from beta, but now that Holo had caught up in levels, they began contesting Nihilum's ability to kill Naggy. Epic PVP battles took place, usually resulting in Holo winning, but ultimately being unable to seal the deal on the dragon.

PVP was happening, fun was being had, there was fear when you walked into zones of getting PVPed, things were cool. Then one day Holo somehow got the wall exploit infoz. They pwned Nihilum @ LS when naggy popped, sat on their bodies, and walled Nagafen and killed him. Then suddenly, perhaps Star Wars beta ended or something, Rogean popped up, disbanded Holo, permaed it's officers, banned the members for 2 weeks who were at the raid, and, contrary to his own policy, announced the action to the server.

After this, the majority of the OG Holo quit the game, disgusted at what had occurred, and the others mostly took a hiatus. Nihilum began to slowly grab up members as there was no other true guild at the time, IF had slowly been falling apart and Los Banditos/FF/Whatever their tag was that day of the week, were still non-factors back then.

Nihilum had basically become geared/max 50 by this point, and didn't play much outside of BAWSES at this point. The world started to become empty, and devoid of PVP. Uprising popped up and basically started tagging everyone that talked. It became sort of a Global OOC guild. Every zone was basically safe, and there rarely was PVP outside of the few Nihilum who would try to camp MS, Natural / Killjoy / Alche (lol he was Lewis?) / Nacho. The PVP server had basically turned blue.

Eventually, the injustice of the Holo ban was overturned, and around 30-40% of the holo members returned, undergeared to nihilum, and underleveled. Immediately they stormed Sol B where nihilum was freely farming Efreeti, and wiped them. People were confused. Why is there PVP happening on this server? Isn't this blue server 2.0? What is going on? Threads were made, people were mad. Guk was stormed and more people died. Again, people were confused. Why are people dying? Nagafen was known to be popping, and Holo wiped Nihilum (nihilum was still pretty small at the time compared to their present size) and brought in Uprising to try to take out Nagafen. While they got him to 6-8%, they couldn't pull it off, and the next day Uprising decided to basically merge with Nihilum.

Nihilum now had approx. three times the members of Holo, more gear, more levels, and a lot of poopsockers. Some more holo members quit at this point, disgusted with the way the server was turning out, and PVP continued to dwindle.


This is the story of the server basically. There was once a rich and vibrant world of PVP, Holo vs. Nihilum, IF/Flowers etc., in many mid-level zones, fear when you zoned into somewhere. It has been replaced by a zerg guild that logs off outside of raids, empty zones, no PVP underneath level 42, and Holo fighting FF a lot. Sounds like we are truly having a better time now than before.


Note: There have been literally only two mass guild vs. guild PVP battles since the Holo banning, which were the night they came back when they killed Nihilum @ Naggy, and the time we stayed up till about 2am trying to do Naggy. Two mass PVP battles in four months. You be the judge.

[Xantille]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sit back kiddies, pull up a log and sit by the fire, let me tell you a story.

It was back in December, holo and nihilum had equal numbers at the time and lovely had just quit. Holo controlled Guk, and Nihilum controlled Sol B. If you were a member of Holo you knew if you tried to go to the LS area by yourself you were going to get murked, and vice versa for Nihilum in Guk. The areas were defended and used for gearing/leveling. Often, nightly, one guild would invade the other and mass PVP for the sake of PVP would ensue. Fun was had and numerous corpses were left at the end. You see, mass guild vs. guild PVP happened for no other reason than to have mass guild PVP.

Nihilum had been clearing Naggy up to this point using the Lovely wall exploit learned from beta, but now that Holo had caught up in levels, they began contesting Nihilum's ability to kill Naggy. Epic PVP battles took place, usually resulting in Holo winning, but ultimately being unable to seal the deal on the dragon.

PVP was happening, fun was being had, there was fear when you walked into zones of getting PVPed, things were cool. Then one day Holo somehow got the wall exploit infoz. They pwned Nihilum @ LS when naggy popped, sat on their bodies, and walled Nagafen and killed him. Then suddenly, perhaps Star Wars beta ended or something, Rogean popped up, disbanded Holo, permaed it's officers, banned the members for 2 weeks who were at the raid, and, contrary to his own policy, announced the action to the server.

After this, the majority of the OG Holo quit the game, disgusted at what had occurred, and the others mostly took a hiatus. Nihilum began to slowly grab up members as there was no other true guild at the time, IF had slowly been falling apart and Los Banditos/FF/Whatever their tag was that day of the week, were still non-factors back then.

Nihilum had basically become geared/max 50 by this point, and didn't play much outside of BAWSES at this point. The world started to become empty, and devoid of PVP. Uprising popped up and basically started tagging everyone that talked. It became sort of a Global OOC guild. Every zone was basically safe, and there rarely was PVP outside of the few Nihilum who would try to camp MS, Natural / Killjoy / Alche (lol he was Lewis?) / Nacho. The PVP server had basically turned blue.

Eventually, the injustice of the Holo ban was overturned, and around 30-40% of the holo members returned, undergeared to nihilum, and underleveled. Immediately they stormed Sol B where nihilum was freely farming Efreeti, and wiped them. People were confused. Why is there PVP happening on this server? Isn't this blue server 2.0? What is going on? Threads were made, people were mad. Guk was stormed and more people died. Again, people were confused. Why are people dying? Nagafen was known to be popping, and Holo wiped Nihilum (nihilum was still pretty small at the time compared to their present size) and brought in Uprising to try to take out Nagafen. While they got him to 6-8%, they couldn't pull it off, and the next day Uprising decided to basically merge with Nihilum.

Nihilum now had approx. three times the members of Holo, more gear, more levels, and a lot of poopsockers. Some more holo members quit at this point, disgusted with the way the server was turning out, and PVP continued to dwindle.


This is the story of the server basically. There was once a rich and vibrant world of PVP, Holo vs. Nihilum, IF/Flowers etc., in many mid-level zones, fear when you zoned into somewhere. It has been replaced by a zerg guild that logs off outside of raids, empty zones, no PVP underneath level 42, and Holo fighting FF a lot. Sounds like we are truly having a better time now than before.


Note: There have been literally only two mass guild vs. guild PVP battles since the Holo banning, which were the night they came back when they killed Nihilum @ Naggy, and the time we stayed up till about 2am trying to do Naggy. Two mass PVP battles in four months. You be the judge.

Pras Grand Historian Heartbrand, J.D.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...

Eventually, the injustice of the Holo ban was overturned, and around 30-40% of the holo members returned, undergeared to nihilum, and underleveled. Immediately they stormed Sol B where nihilum was freely farming Efreeti, and wiped them. People were confused. Why is there PVP happening on this server? Isn't this blue server 2.0? What is going on? Threads were made, people were mad. Guk was stormed and more people died. Again, people were confused. Why are people dying? Nagafen was known to be popping, and Holo wiped Nihilum (nihilum was still pretty small at the time compared to their present size) and brought in Uprising to try to take out Nagafen. While they got him to 6-8%, they couldn't pull it off, and the next day Uprising decided to basically merge with Nihilum.

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In short, waah, waah and more bullshit and excuses.

Nihilum had close to 2x numbers for about 3-4 weeks.

Holo contested Naggy several times with nearly equal force, and lost horribly (oh its gear its gear, oh they got more levelzzzzz...)

PoFear started, Nihilum rolled Holo all week long with equal or lesser numbers, causing Holo great amounts of sorrow, shame and grief after being stomped and camped, thus Holo numbers began dropping, "OGs" too ashamed to log on.

Holocaust's dwindling numbers were replaced by new members and old members whose psychological wounds from pvp domination had healed over time.

Enter present day. With less numbers, Nihilum curbstomped Holo at Naggy causing guildwide rage logs. Days later, Holo flees before smaller forces of Nihilum in every venue, not the least of which was Plane of Fear.

tldr, Nihilum is winning. They are a better guild, attract more players of better character, more dedication to guild and each other (often labeled bluebies by reddies who are killed by them). Nihilum is able to recruit and manage a bigger better guild, with greater coordination in every aspect of the game.

Holo needs to stop shitting up the forums with their sorry excuse for verbal pvp (forum warrioring) and l2guild, l2play and l2stop whining.

Lets do this thing.

[mostbitter]

who are you trying to convince us or yourself?

[Haul]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In short, waah, waah and more bullshit and excuses.

Nihilum had close to 2x numbers for about 3-4 weeks.

Holo contested Naggy several times with nearly equal force, and lost horribly (oh its gear its gear, oh they got more levelzzzzz...)

PoFear started, Nihilum rolled Holo all week long with equal or lesser numbers, causing Holo great amounts of sorrow, shame and grief after being stomped and camped, thus Holo numbers began dropping, "OGs" too ashamed to log on.

Holocaust's dwindling numbers were replaced by new members and old members whose psychological wounds from pvp domination had healed over time.

Enter present day. With less numbers, Nihilum curbstomped Holo at Naggy causing guildwide rage logs. Days later, Holo flees before smaller forces of Nihilum in every venue, not the least of which was Plane of Fear.

tldr, Nihilum is winning. They are a better guild, attract more players of better character, more dedication to guild and each other (often labeled bluebies by reddies who are killed by them). Nihilum is able to recruit and manage a bigger better guild, with greater coordination in every aspect of the game.

Holo needs to stop shitting up the forums with their sorry excuse for verbal pvp (forum warrioring) and l2guild, l2play and l2stop whining.

Lets do this thing.

Dude you can't type tldr then put up a wall of text o.o

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by Haul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude you can't type tldr then put up a wall of text o.o

I should have shortened it for those struggling through community college.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In short, waah, waah and more bullshit and excuses.

Nihilum had close to 2x numbers for about 3-4 weeks.

Holo contested Naggy several times with nearly equal force, and lost horribly (oh its gear its gear, oh they got more levelzzzzz...)

PoFear started, Nihilum rolled Holo all week long with equal or lesser numbers, causing Holo great amounts of sorrow, shame and grief after being stomped and camped, thus Holo numbers began dropping, "OGs" too ashamed to log on.

Holocaust's dwindling numbers were replaced by new members and old members whose psychological wounds from pvp domination had healed over time.

Enter present day. With less numbers, Nihilum curbstomped Holo at Naggy causing guildwide rage logs. Days later, Holo flees before smaller forces of Nihilum in every venue, not the least of which was Plane of Fear.

tldr, Nihilum is winning. They are a better guild, attract more players of better character, more dedication to guild and each other (often labeled bluebies by reddies who are killed by them). Nihilum is able to recruit and manage a bigger better guild, with greater coordination in every aspect of the game.

Holo needs to stop shitting up the forums with their sorry excuse for verbal pvp (forum warrioring) and l2guild, l2play and l2stop whining.

Lets do this thing.

Literally not a line of truth in this. You can see the difference between Professor Heartbrand's History Class and Destin's Hyperbole because mine are mostly statements of fact with little opinions or inferences. destin's is mostly opinions and feelings based upon supposed "facts". Trust the facts bros.