Trakanon Rotation

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sums it up, no freebie.

Metallikus, you've said it yourself, you've competed well in the last month getting more Trakanon than any other guild on the server.

Everquest is a highly competitive game, there is no fun in just steamrolling mobs, the fun is in actually beating your competition to the mob.

I invite you guys to come and compete with TMO in VP, no trains, FTE rules. Whoever gets the pull gets the mob.

The fact is we would easily agree to this with an honorable guild. TMO simply cannot be trusted to uphold an honor agreement not to train.

Most recently they sent an untagged alt named Painfull to eye pull guardian wurms on a group of VD outside of VP in skyfire.
They camped a raid and started a DT cycle in fear to grief/slow down our raid in progress and then trained us directly after to grief/slow down our raid.
They think they can get away with that BS because they have a GM in place that will not respond to petitions and deletes them months later. Thats why IB left the server.
I would be willing to set my disgust about all that aside if TMO were willing to act honorably in competitive raiding going forward. Can they?

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Alkorin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you read?

I'm suggseting that TMO give VD a chance to fully clear VP within a certain time frame. If you guys can't do the job without interference, what right do you have to even be in there ruining it for others?

Be reasonable?

VD has no problem with this. Set it up.

[Alkorin]

I don't play anymore. Don't look at me. It's just a suggestion that I think would be interesting to watch.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Most recently they sent an untagged alt named Painfull to eye pull guardian wurms on a group of VD outside of VP in skyfire.

That was him acting on his own. He's paid for that. It was wrong on every level, and a number of us told him not to do it. Myself included.

They think they can get away with that BS because they have a GM in place that will not respond to petitions and deletes them months later. Thats why IB left the server.

Why don't we lay off both guides? yes, the GM staff has obviously made mistakes, but overall I find them fair and mostly evenhanded when I consider the facts at their disposal from their point of view. Amelinda used her judgement in response to our submitted brief regarding our suspension. The same way the Ambrotos effectively said in the bug forum that it's not really his call to create a new rule regarding the blurring unless he's given new marching orders.

Yeah, they're going to screw up and should be accountable, but let's tone down the hyperbole leveled at them. I assure you, neither guild has sat down and thought "I'll just get the GM to rule for me even though I know I'm acting in the wrong."

[Xanthias]

I find it amusing this thread comes after TMO beat VD to Trak last night...
I wonder if it would have been made had they won.

[username1337]

If one has no other sense of achievement then pixels on an 13 year old emulated game start looking mighty fine. People in TMO need that sense of achievement and they'll do anything it takes to secure it.

[Alkorin]

In before RnF, since that's where this seems to be going. I still think my suggestion's a good one, though.

What say you, TMO?

[Raavak]

It's only a game if you win but if you lose it's a stinking waste of time.

-Al Bundy

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact is we would easily agree to this with an honorable guild. TMO simply cannot be trusted to uphold an honor agreement not to train.

Most recently they sent an untagged alt named Painfull to eye pull guardian wurms on a group of VD outside of VP in skyfire.
They camped a raid and started a DT cycle in fear to grief/slow down our raid in progress and then trained us directly after to grief/slow down our raid.
They think they can get away with that BS because they have a GM in place that will not respond to petitions and deletes them months later. Thats why IB left the server.
I would be willing to set my disgust about all that aside if TMO were willing to act honorably in competitive raiding going forward. Can they?

Painfull acted on his own behalf, noone had a clue he was doing this in the guild. He has been suspended for it for 1 week by the server GMs, on his main character as well as on his alt. He deserved it.

If you are talking about yesterday on CT, we did not start any DT cycle when you were engaging CT. As a matter of fact, you can't start a DT cycle when CT is engaged, the golems and Draco don't DT once a DT cycle is already started. Only CT DTs on engage, the 4 other mobs only start a cycle, which can't be restarted once already active. I'm not sure what you are talking about as I was leading the TMO raid and no DT were set off.

No trains were done on TMO's part last night in Plane of fear. There are trains that come left and right in this zone because of the huge aggro range, it is more often than not unintentional and has been for the whole raid last night. Both guilds train in those circumstances, without any malicious intent. You had your fair shot at CT, you wiped. Move on.

I come back to my previous statement:

I invite you guys to come and compete with TMO in VP, no trains, no memblur, FTE rules. Whoever gets the pull gets the mob.

[Gringo]

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First it was IB, now its VD's fault. Starting to think the real shit bags here are TMO.

THIS!