TMO raid suspension secretly lifted

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because you guys never did anything wrong? L o l

Hmm, don't think I said that. However, I'd like to commend you on your increasing (I hope) willingness to increase your reading comprehension.

So close buddy.

[messiah_b]

What a terribly stupid thing to do. Couldn't keep up one decision against rules lawyering for even a week?!

Edit: Okay removed to give the benefit of the doubt, but this was incredibly stupid because in politics appearance is everything. No one cares about any of the backstory. All they see is one guild getting favored. It's stupid.

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by messiah_b [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What a terribly stupid thing to do. Couldn't keep up one decision against rules lawyering for even a week?!

If you don't want certain players here just tell them to leave and quit with the passive aggressive guild-whore stuff of legend Amel.

[quido]

You guys are such babies.

The suspension was lifted because a train (that was probably IB and VD's own fault) is not as severe a transgression as ninjalooting a server first epic piece that definitely is not yours and then holding it hostage. I personally think there should be a much greater disparity between punishments than two days, but I am pleased that it was acknowledged that ninjalooting and being a bitch is more severe than an unclear train AFTER a raid.

It's not like IB and VD are the only people with unanswered petitions.

[Daldolma]

I like Amelinda, but what an utter disaster of a ruling. If you are going to raid suspend an entire guild, be certain you're right for doing so. And if you're certain you're right, don't repeal your punishment early due to an excess of whining.

I don't know whether Amelinda ruled wrongly in the first place or just got fed up with whining and repealed it early, but either way, this once again sets the precedent that the rules are the rules and they must be followed... unless you break them en masse.

Make all zones VP. No raid rules aside from no ninja looting. Let the raid scene police itself so you can actually come down hard and without mercy on those who break the few rules there are. Trying to enforce civility breeds far more animosity than leaving things in their natural state.

[Raavak]

I am truly embarrased to be associated with you guys and your cruel personal attacks over a game. This isn't even RnF where it can be sometimes expected.

[Wotsirb401]

At least Uthgaard was spot on and would ban people and take action right away

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Wotsirb401 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At least Uthgaard was spot on and would ban people and take action right away

Yeah, Uth was quick to ban and just as quick to correct injustices.

[DigglesVersion2.0]

Summary of thread:

Metallikus Confirmed MAD
VD confirmed BAD

[Jimes]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, Uth was quick to ban and just as quick to correct injustices.

This.

There are lots of tears being shed and tinfoil hats being worn ITT. The fact is that a GM made a judgement, then later when presented with more evidence through petitions decided that their judgement was incorrect. These tears and conspiracy claims are from either butthurt IB pretending to be victims, or from people in <random guild> who don't really know what's going on anyway.