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Old 04-15-2010, 10:45 PM
choklo choklo is offline
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I really enjoyed playing my necro alt on live 9 years ago. I only got to the low 30's before I quit though. I had a level 62 sk ogre too.
I have a lvl 7 chanter now on the back burner since starting my mage. The chanter was slow to level and a little dull and the mage was so much easier/faster to level.
When does the chanter start to get more interesting? Also, what is a "pocket" class? I've always wanted to try a chanter. When can you start to solo with them?
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:19 PM
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I just explained to you that I've played a mage through Kunark and know that is complete bullshit lol
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:57 PM
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I really enjoyed playing my necro alt on live 9 years ago. I only got to the low 30's before I quit though. I had a level 62 sk ogre too.
I have a lvl 7 chanter now on the back burner since starting my mage. The chanter was slow to level and a little dull and the mage was so much easier/faster to level.
When does the chanter start to get more interesting? Also, what is a "pocket" class? I've always wanted to try a chanter. When can you start to solo with them?
Chanters can solo from 1 on up. I solo'd mine to 16 so far (not because I wanted to- I just couldn't find groups) probably as easily or easier than soloing my druid to 14. Of course, the druid soloing will probably start to far outpace at this level, and especially at 19, but up to now, the chanter has been easier. I haven't even done any charming yet. That's just using wussy summoned pet.
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Old 04-16-2010, 01:14 AM
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if you don't mind ruining some of your factions, enchanters using charm can level very fast in some spots. at lower levels i remember charming tiny miller and taking him around WK and clearing the zone.
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Old 04-16-2010, 04:24 PM
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Lol I played a mage through Kunark and I still laugh.

You just have to tweak your tactics 50+. You can't tank and spank with a focused fire pet like you did all through classic.

The tactic is relatively the same, but pet chaining is still > necro efficiency and speed, period. I've done both extensively and the mage is faster, and easier.

Necro is simply safer because of the escape mechanics of FD.

Yeah....I have seen lvl 60s Necros easily soloing named mobs in Howling Stones though. Very profitable.
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Old 04-16-2010, 04:29 PM
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not quite sure what world you live on, Finawin, but i'd love to join you! it seems a magical place with wondrous plains and beautiful mountains!

mage pets just aren't the same in kunark as they are in classic. The DPS, iirc, was decent (pet DPS), the nukes on the other hand are weaker and don't match up with wizzies as well as they do in classic. The pets can't quite take the hits that kunark mobs dish out, even the earth pet. because the mobs hit harder and have more hp than your pets can handle, you're ultimately you're left with no other option but to chaincast your pet if you plan to solo, which despite what finawin thinks, is nowhere near as efficient as a necro. they still make excellent group DPS and will always be the best class to farm lower lvl dungeons with, thus a great moneymaker as well.
This was all true and VERY intentional. Mages were OVERPOWERED DURING CLASSIC....it's a simple fact. Their nukes were nearly as strong as wizzy nukes, short of Ice Comet - and their pets allowed for steady DPS between nukes.

THIS is exactly one of the reasons why Kunark mobs have much higher spells resists....and thusly Wizards get Lures, while NO other classes do. Additionally as has been stated, Kunark mobs not only hit alot harder but they have a LOT more HP. Burning them down like classic mobs is far from mana efficient.

EDIT -- Of course the MAGE EPIC should get honorable mention here. Once epicced any Mage was set until Luclin as being one of the highest-DPS toons in the game, period. I remember playing my Dwarf Warrior on Tallon Zek and dueling a Guildee Mage of mine - this was during velious, and my warrior was in full Kael Armor / NTOV gear. Wielding a Claw of Lightning (14/18 - 41% haste) and a Primal 1HB. Even with the Avatar buff constantly on my Warrior, the Mage Epic pet was significantly more powerful than him in a toe-to-toe fight (with the Mage casting ZERO spells.)
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Old 04-16-2010, 07:36 PM
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I made an incorrect statement of fact about mana ratios as a pillar of my theory because I compared mana ratios of equal damage spells , which admittedly was unfair to the wizzie argument. That was just the opening statement before I stated my theory. I'm sorry you are so poorly educated but that was a FACT that I stated incorrectly not a theory. My theory was the next paragraph.

"If you add in the small amount of + damage from strength buffs + the damage from damage shields (Yes wizzies get a damage shield but it is far inferior) It could be argued that Druids out DPS wizzies in grps! Add in the druid dot that is irresistible to anything within 8 levels (live) and has a 3.2 D:M at lvl 44 and you have a convincing argument!"

Don't get upset because you don't know the diff tween a Fact and theory, I admit I got the facts wrong pre 48, but I have them right post 49, and it doesn't matter anyways, 80+% of peeps reading this will roll druids over wizzies.

Also, If you quoted my whole statement, you best off read it, and if you read it and forgot what I said in it so quickly, then we know your mental capacity.

Go shoot up the post office you work at then take my advice on your new druid...115 points in wisdom :P
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Old 04-16-2010, 08:54 PM
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Wisdom is easy to get, go STA!
casters get shit for stam. ~1-2 hp per stam at 50. Believe you me that whopping 40 hp isn't gonna make a difference considering the mobs do 200 damage per round.
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