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Old 10-23-2011, 12:39 PM
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that change is nice and convenient because it only really affects people who are below lvl 15. so it's not going to be a meaningful change in the grand scheme of things. the devs could show their good faith by letting weapon delay affect pet delay, that would be a change that would affect higher level characters and have a more meaningful impact on the game.
So the solution would be to stop whining and politely write a bug report about how weapon delay affected pet delay in classic, and show that in line with other recent nerfs this would not be a problem for the server's integrity, and maybe you'll get what you want. But your attitude (as well as most of the other posters in this thread) is probably the least conducive to getting anything changed in your favor.

There's also a bug report about how pets didn't mitigate damage in classic (either attacks missed or hit for full). If that ends up being true (and I have no idea if it is), then you'll be even more likely to get pet delay fixed, as well as sword of runes proccing on non-summoned mobs probably.

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Yeah, weve been asking for that for what ... 2 years? I give a huge congratz to the devs who have realized they can introduce 1 pet fix for each pet nerf each patch.


And if you think kanras made it so a lvl 1 necro pet will hit for 90 with a weighted axe, your insane..... but its classic and it should. Im sure pets will do more dmg as stated, but not the way it was in classic.

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Did you even check to see if this is functioning as you say, or are you just trying to be annoying?
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:41 PM
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So the solution would be to stop whining and politely write a bug report about how weapon delay affected pet delay in classic, and show that in line with other recent nerfs this would not be a problem for the server's integrity, and maybe you'll get what you want. But your attitude (as well as most of the other posters in this thread) is probably the least conducive to getting anything changed in your favor.

There's also a bug report about how pets didn't mitigate damage in classic (either attacks missed or hit for full). If that ends up being true (and I have no idea if it is), then you'll be even more likely to get pet delay fixed, as well as sword of runes proccing on non-summoned mobs probably.
it's already been reported. haynar had a nerdfit about it, telling us to (and i quote) "stop whining."

the devs don't give a fuck about classic, regardless of the impression that they leave. they want classic 2.0, with their own set of balance fixes. which is fine, they just need to call it what it is and stop hiding behind that lame old excuse of "it's classic."
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:41 PM
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If pet aggro were fixed, then pet classes could level 'classically', but this situation is still more fair than the way things were before, with uber pets doing 99% of the damage and the caster getting full exp.
Pet aggro and pet delay need to be fixed. Can't just fix one and not the other. Without a pet delay fix this is too much of a nerf, as pet delay allowed for faster killing, helping negate the XP nerf.
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:44 PM
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it's already been reported. haynar had a nerdfit about it, telling us to (and i quote) "stop whining."

the devs don't give a fuck about classic, regardless of the impression that they leave. they want classic 2.0, with their own set of balance fixes. which is fine, they just need to call it what it is and stop hiding behind that lame old excuse of "it's classic."
Yeah, with this attitude I can totally see you getting what you want in the near future. I thought mostly adults played on this server?

You know, I play a Bard and swarm/charm kiting still hasn't been fixed, yet you don't see me bitching every time something is nerfed. In fact I actively go out of my way to report bugs that benefit Bards (like the songs window, jonathan's inspiration being overpowered, pbae's not doing reduced damage if the mobs are moving, etc.) Would it be reasonable for me to say, "no, I'm not going to report any exploits that Bards can abuse because the devs owe it to me to fix swarm kiting"? Give me a break.
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:45 PM
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You came here to play classic, don't complain when they make things classic.
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So the solution would be to stop whining and politely write a bug report about how weapon delay affected pet delay in classic, and show that in line with other recent nerfs this would not be a problem for the server's integrity, and maybe you'll get what you want. But your attitude (as well as most of the other posters in this thread) is probably the least conducive to getting anything changed in your favor.
As I posted last page:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ht=pets&page=2

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I don't care how much anyone whines. Pet delays will not be lowered, if the weapon has a lower delay. But enough about that.
There's always the chance that his stance changes now, but as it stands, there's no pet delay fix coming. Selective picking and choosing of classic features. Like I said, this XP change without a pet delay fix is a bigger nerf than it should be.

If his stance changes in the near future and this thread is still active I'll edit this to reflect that.
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:47 PM
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Yeah, with this attitude I can totally see you getting what you want in the near future. I thought mostly adults played on this server?

You know, I play a Bard and swarm/charm kiting still hasn't been fixed, yet you don't see me bitching every time something is nerfed. In fact I actively go out of my way to report bugs that benefit Bards (like the songs window, jonathan's inspiration, pbae's not doing reduced damage if the mobs are moving, etc.) Would it be reasonable for me to say, "no, I'm not going to report any exploits that Bards can abuse because the devs owe it to me to fix swarm kiting"? Give me a break.
i don't follow you. none of this information changes the fact that 1. weapon delay of pets has been already reported in the bug section and 2. the people who posted the bug were called whiners by one of the developers. who is being an adult? that's for the reader to decide.
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:48 PM
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As I posted last page:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ht=pets&page=2



There's always the chance that his stance changes now, but as it stands, there's no pet delay fix coming. Selective picking and choosing of classic features. Like I said, this XP change without a pet delay fix is a bigger nerf than it should be.

If his stance changes in the near future and this thread is still active I'll edit this to reflect that.
Why don't you make a new thread, point out all of the things that have changed since his post was made, be clear and polite, say please, and hope for the best?
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:50 PM
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Oh they did, trust me.

Actually If any of you knew this history of this server, When p99 first went live the 1 point of damage requirement for pet classes was live, then in the Febuary 18 2010 patch they changed it to the 50% damage requirement, which caused quite an uproar including Guineapig our super-mod =) The very next patch Rogean changed it back to the 1 point of damage requirement. Now they are changing it back again.

Its for Red99 folks, And *hopefully* after that server has been up for a while they will revert it again. It truely is a retarded rule IMHO.
This sums up my feelings best i think, like if we're going for classic, then make a change and be done. But it feels like it's arbitrary what parts of classic we have and what parts we don't. When it gets switched back and forth and back again, it's not an effort to be classic, it's just an effort to nerf pet classes.
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:54 PM
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Lazortag - the guy that just argues the counter point to the majority in every post..

You are a gluton for negativity arent you bro ? Lol.. i dont get it.
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