Still No Word? - Page 8

Reiwa · #1 08-11-2025, 11:10 PM

Secrets is clearly guilty and knows it.

Zoolander · #2 08-12-2025, 01:25 PM

“you also agree to delay future project 1999 release dates as reasonably requested by daybreak to avoid similar conflicts.”

shovelquest · #3 08-12-2025, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoolander [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

“you also agree to delay future project 1999 release dates as reasonably requested by daybreak to avoid similar conflicts.”

HOLY SHIT it does say that! I was right CD28! I was right!

No green lol it's up to daybreak games! LOL

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8) Release of the Velious Expansion. You agree not to release the Project 1999 ''Velious"
expansion until August 1, 2015, to avoid a potential conflict with the release of Daybreak's
progression server at the end of May. You also agree to delay future Project 1999 release dates
as reasonably requested by Daybreak to avoid similar conflicts.

cd288 · #4 08-12-2025, 02:24 PM

My understanding of the history there is that when Velious was about to launch Daybreak was launching a TLP. So P99 pushed the release of Velious back so that it wouldn't compete with the launch of the TLP.

I don't think that's saying they can't launch another server without permission. It's saying that if Daybreak makes a reasonable request for them to delay the launch (such as if it's overlapping with a TLP launch, like the release of Velious on Blue was) then P99 will agree to delay temporarily.

shovelquest · #5 08-12-2025, 02:38 PM

You also agree to delay future Project 1999 release dates as reasonably requested by Daybreak to avoid similar conflicts.

It reads to me in the text text that daybreak has to basically approve of any future release or p99 runs the risk of nullifying the contract.

But then inquiring to daybreak puts you back in the cross hairs, so even that can make it risky IMO

ChatGPT:

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How to Follow This Properly & Legally:
1. Maintain Open Communication with Daybreak
Proactively inform Daybreak of your upcoming release plans.
Ask if they anticipate any scheduling conflicts.
Keep a formal or documented communication channel (e.g. email) for tracking requests and responses.
2. Assess Requests for Reasonableness
"Reasonably requested" gives you some discretion.
A request would be reasonable if:
It is made in good faith,
It is related to a legitimate concern (like a Daybreak release),
It is not excessively burdensome (e.g., asking for a delay of months without cause could be unreasonable).
Unreasonable requests (e.g. “don’t release for a year for no reason”) may not have to be honored, but you should document your reasoning and possibly seek legal advice before rejecting.
3. Document All Delays and Requests
Keep a written record of:
The date of Daybreak’s request,
The content of the request,
Your internal response and actions taken,
Any relevant correspondence.
4. Avoid Independent Releases That Conflict with Daybreak
If you plan a release, and Daybreak informs you that their schedule includes a competing product at the same time, you must delay.
Work with them on selecting an alternative date that avoids conflict.
5. Have a Process for Adjusting Future Dates
Make your release dates provisional or “subject to change based on coordination with Daybreak” to maintain flexibility.

It certainly doesn’t stop them but it does make it more risky.

cd288 · #6 08-13-2025, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You also agree to delay future Project 1999 release dates as reasonably requested by Daybreak to avoid similar conflicts.

It reads to me in the text text that daybreak has to basically approve of any future release or p99 runs the risk of nullifying the contract.

But then inquiring to daybreak puts you back in the cross hairs, so even that can make it risky IMO

ChatGPT:

It certainly doesn’t stop them but it does make it more risky.

Yeah that's not what that language says. It doesn't require Daybreak's consent to launch a new server. If it did, it would explicitly say that they won't launch one without
Daybreak's express prior written consent.

Now, if Daybreak finds out they are launching Green 2.0 and wants to ask them to delay it for a long time...they can of course do so, but under that language they'd have to provide a reason other than "because we said so" and if that reason wasn't reasonable then P99 could ask a court to allow them to launch the server. Would P99 do that? I'm guessing probably not since it would be time consuming and expensive to litigate whether Daybreak's justification was "reasonable". So if they didn't then yeah that language kind of could be used to prevent them from launching a server. But if P99 went to court it would probably have a good shot at winning.