SK Race Choice

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ogres and Trolls have a hidden ability called "smell my finger."

LOL you figured it out!

[Pint]

Yea these guys are wrong. AC while crawling dungeons is king if your gear is "end game" (mines about 1500). Not sure why you'd be fear kiting as a 6k/1500ac sk working your way through a dungeon but I'm a paladin not a sk.

[Toxigen]

Being large in dungeons is horrible.

Best race is anything but ogre / troll if ya gonna be BiS anyway.

[Snaggles]

Yea and skelly illusion removes slam. So any race will need a Inny’s Curse if you are trying to maximize dps while having a small chance of shutting down casters you can’t fear.

DSM, the only reason Pint doesn’t have a geared sk is because he doesn’t want one. Or doesn’t want to do it again (one knight is enough for most). It’s not that hard. Most if not all of the mechanics are the same, just a different tool kit. And yes, 60 means everything. Your skill caps aren’t evolved, your missing good spells and a disc, the npc is naturally a level higher than it has to be which as we all know matters. I know you mean well but just level your SK. I’ve pushed a bard and Druid to 60 since you were first being heckled about it.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea and skelly illusion removes slam. So any race will need a Inny’s Curse if you are trying to maximize dps while having a small chance of shutting down casters you can’t fear.

DSM, the only reason Pint doesn’t have a geared sk is because he doesn’t want one. Or doesn’t want to do it again (one knight is enough for most). It’s not that hard. Most if not all of the mechanics are the same, just a different tool kit. And yes, 60 means everything. Your skill caps aren’t evolved, your missing good spells and a disc, the npc is naturally a level higher than it has to be which as we all know matters. I know you mean well but just level your SK. I’ve pushed a bard and Druid to 60 since you were first being heckled about it.

It's telling when you think SK's use skele illision because they need to[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Shroud of Death gives the same life tap proc as Shroud of Undeath, just no skele illusion. Unless you want to kill something in style, why use Shroud of Undeath in a tough fight?

I have a level 60 character, I know precisely the difference in how much you get hit between 59 and 60. It's not a massive leap if you are soloing most of the time. You are thinking in terms of offtanking in a raid, where the mob is often higher level than you (60 or above). Level gap matters more in that case. When fighting something like Sebilis Frogs, you are already 10+ levels above a lot of them at 59. Leechcurse has a 72 minute cooldown, so unless you are fighting 1 mob and AFKing for 72 minutes, I am not sure why you think Leechcurse is going to be something you are using often.

SK's get a slightly better Tap and a slightly better FD at 60. You don't need to play with them to understand what they will give you.

Basically Pint is just trying to do an argument from authority because he doesn't have anything else, inlcuding an SK to test his theories.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea and skelly illusion removes slam. So any race will need a Inny’s Curse if you are trying to maximize dps while having a small chance of shutting down casters you can’t fear.

DSM, the only reason Pint doesn’t have a geared sk is because he doesn’t want one. Or doesn’t want to do it again (one knight is enough for most). It’s not that hard. Most if not all of the mechanics are the same, just a different tool kit. And yes, 60 means everything. Your skill caps aren’t evolved, your missing good spells and a disc, the npc is naturally a level higher than it has to be which as we all know matters. I know you mean well but just level your SK. I’ve pushed a bard and Druid to 60 since you were first being heckled about it.

Just one more point about skele illusion. If you were specifically referring to Soul Defiler, that weapon typically costs a lot of DKP, and it is pretty rare in terms of drop rate. If you can raid enough to get a Soul Defiler, you can get an Epic and simply swap to Epic when you need to bash, or click off Call To Bones if you need Slam on a ToV Weapon/Vulak Axe/Tunare Sword.

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah this thread is getting ugly with all these pallies who have never played high lvl sks. Do me a favor and compare thurg heal click Vs dw bp click. Yikes. And pally hot Vs a slow ass inefficient tap. Sks also don’t even get 210 bind wound. Or mend. Monks/pallies are just way better at self healing.

Yeah I am not sure what Pint is talking about. If Pint wants he can post a video showing how much damage he takes per fight with 1500 AC. I've never heard of high AC mitigating so much damage you are only taking like 300 points of damage on a level 50+ mob. But with evidence like that I would be happy to be proven wrong.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just one more point about skele illusion. If you were specifically referring to Soul Defiler, that weapon typically costs a lot of DKP, and it is pretty rare in terms of drop rate. If you can raid enough to get a Soul Defiler, you can get an Epic and simply swap to Epic when you need to bash, or click off Call To Bones if you need Slam on a ToV Weapon/Vulak Axe/Tunare Sword.

Yep I typed "inny's curse" instead of soul defiler. Just a mental swap. Had one on live and always found that annoying as an ogre.

[Pint]

We ought to schedule a time to meet up with our variously geared knights and do a little real time experimenting. I can bring end game paladin or sk.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We ought to schedule a time to meet up with our variously geared knights and do a little real time experimenting. I can bring end game paladin or sk.

Yeah let's do it! I replied to your PM.

[Toxigen]

c u boys in 30 pages