CHARMING AND MEZZING

[long.liam]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was a key part of classic EQ (for some classses at least) ... and we're all here for classic EQ right?

Kind of off-topic, but on my shaman I prefer slow tanking or slow + pet tanking with JBB clicks over root-rotting tactics. I know the meta is to Cast Bane of Nife and the use low level root to kill mobs, but it's kind of fun to have the pet out and spam the JBB on Mobs. It also the only Viable way to kill Summoning NPCs. Although, I supposed you could use Bane of Nife instead of the JBB, but Its nice to not have to cast a 425 mana spell ever 42 seconds. JBB is also very low hate per cast, which will help the pet to hold aggro on most mobs too. Lets me conserve my HP for healing and canning back my mana.

[Whicks]

I played chanter during Velious. I rermember not charming in groups because the resist rates were high because we were almost always pulling yellows and reds and a resisted charm was a death sentence.

For example. HHK Goblins was split into like 3-4 camps? Entire full groups would hold down a couple spawns so the time between pulls was long so it made no sense to charm anyways, but even if we could, you're an entire group not slaughters blues non-stop. You're an entire group killing a small amount of yellows and reds.

I feel like on p99 most groups are more level centrict to the content. On live we killed the highest level shit we could get away with. There was no efficiency to it. Because people did that a lot, the camps were smaller due to it taking more time to kill mobs anyways.

I feel like that general gameplay leads people to believe the game was "harder" back then. It may have been in some ways but not others.

On p99, unless you're murdering things at the right pace people will notice and change things around because we know whats' efficient now.

[enjchanter]

I'm glad charming is broken here so I don't have to group/duo

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm glad charming is broken here so I don't have to group/duo

especially at scepter camp

[Ciderpress]

Rezzing this old thread cause the topic seems relevant.

Just started trying to solo in chardok since I got dictate, and I get the strat of using it to suicide placeholders into a pack of mobs, but whenever I cast dictate on the ph, all the mobs in the room attack me instead of the pet, and they just chase me around until they kill me.

In videos I've watched on youtube that doesn't seem to happen, the dude charms the pet and then just sends it and all the social sarnaks gang up on it instantly. And he's not pacifying them or anything first. What am I doing wrong?

[PatChapp]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rezzing this old thread cause the topic seems relevant.

Just started trying to solo in chardok since I got dictate, and I get the strat of using it to suicide placeholders into a pack of mobs, but whenever I cast dictate on the ph, all the mobs in the room attack me instead of the pet, and they just chase me around until they kill me.

In videos I've watched on youtube that doesn't seem to happen, the dude charms the pet and then just sends it and all the social sarnaks gang up on it instantly. And he's not pacifying them or anything first. What am I doing wrong?

Which room are you doing,Koro?
Some rooms you need to paci,some don't.
If your doing korocusts room, what I do is make a social macro with pet attack <one of the golem in the pits name>

Then,while floating I run off the back down to the bank,go through the waterfall and hit land
Start backing your pet until its dead
Some mobs will path to you but they don't get close
Gate out

The bank you need at least one paci to do the manager.
Any other questions you can pm me and il walk you through it, doks obscenely easy once you get the hang of it.

[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by PatChapp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which room are you doing,Koro?
Some rooms you need to paci,some don't.
If your doing korocusts room, what I do is make a social macro with pet attack <one of the golem in the pits name>

Then,while floating I run off the back down to the bank,go through the waterfall and hit land
Start backing your pet until its dead
Some mobs will path to you but they don't get close
Gate out

The bank you need at least one paci to do the manager.
Any other questions you can pm me and il walk you through it, doks obscenely easy once you get the hang of it.

Thanks. It was actually those two exact camps I was talking about lol. After some more experimenting I think I have it down. Way more fun and lucrative than killing cliff golems, which I refuse to ever kill again. 100+ dead and not a single spell worth dick.

[spoil]

That's funny I had the same experience with Cliff Golems, never got a single spell worth more than like 500p. Then recently I got Dictate, Malo, Mask of the Hunter, Zumaik's Animation and a couple in the 500 range. I would still say it's overall not worth it on an enchanter.

[Tnair]

been playing on PQ and I have a proposal for Loramin: charming could be the same as live in era, but without channeling being changed so that multiple hits commonly dont interrupt casting, and pair that with ignorance(/nonexistance?) of clickie GCD reset then perhaps it was simply seen as not viable during 2000-2002. and before people learned how to make it viable, more expansions were out and new things to try. charming is pretty dangerous when it goes wrong so i could also see a general social pressure not to risk the group like that (when it wasnt common for an enchanter to manage it well)

[PatChapp]

Yeah cliff golem are bad loot,but at least kind of fun to kill sometimes. Whenever I'm in ot if I have time I kill one.