Jean-Luc Picard Is A Liberal

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by Jobaber [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like literally, I'm an environmental socialist, but I can tell you that I see a lot of the stuf my side is doing is insane.

So I say, hey lets not do that, lets do this.

And the response from my "liberal open minded friends is" Shutup you putin simp, you're a nazi, and a racist paste eater and trump supporter.

We HAVE to do war, we HAVE to bail out the rich.

If you cant say that trump seemed to have stopped war for 4 years, then you're not a liberal.

Democrats have abandoned/fucked over true leftists.

Or atleast left-populists.

The Bernie/AOC types are under the thumb of the establishment.

The best thing Leftists could do right now is join up with right-populists and dismantle the forces at the top.

[Jobaber]

The definition given of a liberal is:

A person who wants to change the world for the better, but sometimes they make it worse in the process, but if you listen to them it will be better eventually.

You are not open to other ideas, think all of yours are right and better, and dont want to try anything else.

That is as conservative as it gets.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Democrats have abandoned/fucked over true leftists.

Or atleast left-populists.

The Bernie/AOC types are under the thumb of the establishment.

The best thing Leftists could do right now is join up with right-populists and dismantle the forces at the top.

"After Hitler, our turn!" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jobaber]

Here's an idea, lets negotiate instead of do war?

NO WE HAVE TO DO WAR 100 BILLION FOR FREEDOM!!!!!!!!

how the f is that liberal?

[Jobaber]

You know who else wants to do war and genocide than negotiate?

JLP in the "action movie" most (actual liberal) fans consider the jump the shark moment of TNG.

Because that's conservative shit.

[Jobaber]

This is the test to see if you are a liberal:

"Hmm... it seems the guy I hate actually was able to maintain peace and stability in some regions, I may not like him, but under his management more lives were saved and the world was a safer space.

This makes me question my stance on things... there does seem to have been a diplomatic solution, that disappeared as soon as the party who spent the last 4 years saying Russia has attacked American democracy was elected."

If you cant say that, then you are a staunch conservative.

Just becuase the estabhlishment has changed the color of the clothes they wear to blue, does not mean the concepts of democracy first - war to defend it - and maintain the capitalist's status quo isnt the entire ethos of the modern democratic party.

That's what was defined as conservative.

So the modern liberal, is a republican at this point, and the only closed minded warhawks are democrats.

Things.

Change.

[aussenseiter]

Ironically if you want to do poopulism(and you shouldn't), the best move would be supporting the removal of the Senate filibuster.

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Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"After Hitler, our turn!" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're the Leftist.

And yet you don't want change?

Sounds pretty Conservative...

[Jobaber]

Even Bill Maher is not a liberal.

That guy thinks he has everything figured out.

A liberal was someone who was willing to admit they dont, so they can learn how.

That's what jean luc was about.

That's why people think he's a liberal, he's a liberal by the definition of the websters word liberal.

Not the google political definition.

The prime directive is: a border wall, and letting russia and ukraine work it out.

[Jobaber]

Actual dictionary definition of liberal:

noun. lib·​er·​al ˈli-b(ə-)rəl. : a person who is liberal: such as. : one who is open-minded or not strict in the observance of orthodox, traditional, or established forms or ways.

Even googles description of a liberal, is a modern libertarian and NOT a progressive:

noun lib·er·al a supporter of a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.

A progrsesive, is a PROGRESSIVE.

They used to be made up mostly of liberals, until progressives became about war, and establishment status quo.