Brainwashed About Climate (2017 v 2022)

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This guy is a boss on this topic. He's a current lib, but former progressive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciStnd9Y2ak

Hint: The main solution to climate change by FAR is nuclear energy, which libs paradoxically always oppose.

I'm not sure that's paradoxical, I've met plenty of libs who were in favor of a nuclear reactor for power generation as long as it's not built down the street from them

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure that's paradoxical, I've met plenty of libs who were in favor of a nuclear reactor for power generation as long as it's not built down the street from them

Yeah you can always find a few outliers in any group; the point is that the left wing political establishment in the US and other modernized western nations have been broadly rejecting nuclear energy for decades now, because they just hear the word "nuclear" and think "atomic bomb" and then their brains turn off.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah you can always find a few outliers in any group; the point is that the left wing political establishment in the US and other modernized western nations have been broadly rejecting nuclear energy for decades now, because they just hear the word "nuclear" and think "atomic bomb" and then their brains turn off.

Three Mile Island pretty much killed nuclear power development in the United States. Anything "nuclear" has become verboten, nevermind technologies like liquid salt reactors, thorium, etc, that are effectively unrelated to the more problematic high pressure steam reactors. Unfortunately enough the development freeze also means a bunch of those high pressure reactors remain in service because there's no politically viable replacement for them.

I also think killing off the Yucca project was a mistake; it would've been excellent for its intended purpose.

There's too much overlap between the folks who profess concern for the climate and folks who really just despise humanity and want to see humanity reverted to some sort of semi-industrial condition. That group tends to oppose any development of any sort. I support development of newer forms of energy--it's necessary for a lot of reasons, not just climate--but in a manner that continues advancing the human condition rather than hamstringing our civilization.

Danth

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure that's paradoxical, I've met plenty of libs who were in favor of a nuclear reactor for power generation as long as it's not built down the street from them

Everyone is a NIMBY. I know I am.

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure that's paradoxical, I've met plenty of libs who were in favor of a nuclear reactor for power generation as long as it's not built down the street from them

As far as "old" fission tech, the Palo Verde reactor is about as perfect a situation as it could get - 40 miles from Phoenix, reactors are cooled entirely by waste water from said Phoenix metropolitan area.

First and only of a kind in the world, if I recall.

Contrast that with the boondoggle that is the Ivanpah solar generation plant, and the solution is clear.

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This guy is a boss on this topic. He's a current lib, but former progressive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciStnd9Y2ak

Hint: The main solution to climate change by FAR is nuclear energy, which libs paradoxically always oppose.

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[Jibartik]

good movie especially if you love or hate the producer.

[Ooloo]

Hmmm.. I do hate michael moore... I'm not sure about this

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmmm.. I do hate michael moore... I'm not sure about this

[Jibartik]

Just ask a boomer what they think of nuke power and you'll get your answer for, "how did people get brainwashed to be afraid of nuke power"