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No, people are possible of anything, it’s just not widespread in either case (terrorist parents or crazy propagandist teachers). And I don’t believe the conservative’s arguments that pornographic and gender-confusing material are being pushed by every public school. I don’t even believe that CRT is being pushed by many teachers because, for one, history really only pertains to a history or social studies class. Why the F would a math teacher be teaching CRT? And two, I just don’t think it is as common as conservatives are claiming. But I am not claiming to know everything about what schools are doing

I can only speak anecdotally, but like I said kids identifying as gender confused, non-binary, and trans is exploding and parents are incorrectly assuming they are getting these “ideas” from school. From actually taking to the kids who identify this way, yes it does seem to have a fad element and appears that is very likely to be just a phase for many of them, but the parents are wrong that the kids are getting it from their teachers. From the mouths of the kids, it spreads among friend groups. One kid hears about a friend identifying as trans or non-binary and they start doing the same. I’m assuming the original is probably getting it from online

Out of the hundreds of LGBT (call me old school but I stop the letters there), I have yet to have a kid mention they read about being non-binary or trans in a school book. And these are naive kids, they wouldn’t have the conceptualization to keep this info from adults for political purposes obviously
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Old 01-30-2022, 08:34 PM
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No gravy the issue is that parents in some places are being forced to go to PTA meetings and, through tears, reprimand the school board because their young son came home from school and asked if it's bad to be white. This happened. no it's not happening everywhere obviously, but the frequency is increasing, not decreasing.

Siding with these unaccountable school board beaurocrats over concerned parents is like peak establishment-friendly, centralized-control friendly modern leftism.
you gotta give me something. I know the school did not teach the kids "its bad to be white". I know a teacher who just got fired last week for saying "give me a damn minute" to a kid. So I know that didnt happen, not like you're saying it did.

You're implying the teachers specifically taught kids this as curriculum, like this is part of the class. Or at least implying that it will be. Its not, it never has been, and if he feels bad about white people owning slaves, thats kinda his problem. Go to the school counselor.

Also, we need to change the ENTIRE school system on some level because a kid went home and asked his mom if its bad to be white?? Thats fucking nuts and you know it. One time I got in a fight at school so we need solitary confinement for all students, too. One time these kids were smoking weed, so they should drug test the school every day. Pretty much the level of bullshit you're saying should change because of some kids feelings, that didnt happen the way you're saying it did.
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LGBT (call me old school but I stop the letters there), I have yet to have a kid mention they read about being non-binary or trans
What does the T stand for, mr old school? 😬
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What does the T stand for, mr old school? 😬
Trans but the letters continue from there and I haven’t bothered to learn the new ones. Take out the B if we are going to add non-binary in the mix because B implies two things. Bi-pedal, two legs

That’s why I just do the LGBT, because more letters added to that just confuses me
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No, people are possible of anything, it’s just not widespread in either case (terrorist parents or crazy propagandist teachers). And I don’t believe the conservative’s arguments that pornographic and gender-confusing material are being pushed by every public school. I don’t even believe that CRT is being pushed by many teachers because, for one, history really only pertains to a history or social studies class. Why the F would a math teacher be teaching CRT? And two, I just don’t think it is as common as conservatives are claiming. But I am not claiming to know everything about what schools are doing

I can only speak anecdotally, but like I said kids identifying as gender confused, non-binary, and trans is exploding and parents are incorrectly assuming they are getting these “ideas” from school. From actually taking to the kids who identify this way, yes it does seem to have a fad element and appears that is very likely to be just a phase for many of them, but the parents are wrong that the kids are getting it from their teachers. From the mouths of the kids, it spreads among friend groups. One kid hears about a friend identifying as trans or non-binary and they start doing the same. I’m assuming the original is probably getting it from online

Out of the hundreds of LGBT (call me old school but I stop the letters there), I have yet to have a kid mention they read about being non-binary or trans in a school book. And these are naive kids, they wouldn’t have the conceptualization to keep this info from adults for political purposes obviously
It also could be that our society is much more understanding and liberal now a days with the internet and what not. Its OK to be gay, you dont have to wait til your 30 to come out these days. You should be able to say "maybe im gay" or whatever when you're in school and try that life style if you want to. I thought this was the land of the free. Like why not?

They would be alright with the QB of the football team fucking the prom queen but not if its two dudes or two girls. lol.. You're right that it is alot more common but thats because they wont get their heads caved in, put in jail, castrated, etc. At least not as much, but yeah. I dont think its a fad though. I think that people are curious and they will try things when given the opportunity. They dont face a huge social penalty for saying im bi or trans or whatever.

One more thing. We have NO IDEA what its like to go to school these days. I cant even imagine. I think we should be like culture shocked if we spent a day in a classroom. You think so?
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Trans but the letters continue from there and I haven’t bothered to learn the new ones. Take out the B if we are going to add non-binary in the mix because B implies two things. Bi-pedal, two legs

That’s why I just do the LGBT, because more letters added to that just confuses me
That sounds ok
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Just so everyone knows, CRT is a graduate level course. Meaning you already have an AA and a masters, like 4-8 years of college, then you can pay to take CRT. So... Anyone that says some school is teaching it at a K-12 school is lying. Its simply not available for people to just learn willy nilly from a textbook.

The right has hijacked the word CRT to mean "anything i dont like or think i dont like"
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It also could be that our society is much more understanding and liberal now a days with the internet and what not. Its OK to be gay, you dont have to wait til your 30 to come out these days. You should be able to say "maybe im gay" or whatever when you're in school and try that life style if you want to. I thought this was the land of the free. Like why not?

They would be alright with the QB of the football team fucking the prom queen but not if its two dudes or two girls. lol.. You're right that it is alot more common but thats because they wont get their heads caved in, put in jail, castrated, etc. At least not as much, but yeah. I dont think its a fad though. I think that people are curious and they will try things when given the opportunity. They dont face a huge social penalty for saying im bi or trans or whatever.

One more thing. We have NO IDEA what its like to go to school these days. I cant even imagine. I think we should be like culture shocked if we spent a day in a classroom. You think so?
Sure more acceptance plays a role but saying there is a cultural element driving it (and by cultural I mean among peers), and that it might be just a phase is not dismissing it, and is probably the best approach to take initially

It also happens to be the approach I see 99% of parents taking. They aren’t saying (at least not to me), “well Timmy said he’s a girl so let’s dose him up with some estrogen”, and they’re not saying “Timmy is going to hell and I don’t love him anymore because he said he was a girl”, either. They are sitting back, expecting it to be a phase, and letting it play out. Now this is what they say to professionals, maybe they are getting Timmy hormones or chastising him behind closed doors, I dunno what happens behind closed doors

I have only had to make one CPS report on a parent who didn’t accept his kids sexuality, and that was because it was a deadbeat parent who was also didn’t know where his kid was most of the time and spent most of the conversation with me insulting the kid. He’s probably lost custody a long time ago now. That’s it, that’s the only sexuality non-acceptance report I’ve made
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No, people are possible of anything, it’s just not widespread in either case (terrorist parents or crazy propagandist teachers). And I don’t believe the conservative’s arguments that pornographic and gender-confusing material are being pushed by every public school. I don’t even believe that CRT is being pushed by many teachers because, for one, history really only pertains to a history or social studies class. Why the F would a math teacher be teaching CRT? And two, I just don’t think it is as common as conservatives are claiming. But I am not claiming to know everything about what schools are doing

I can only speak anecdotally, but like I said kids identifying as gender confused, non-binary, and trans is exploding and parents are incorrectly assuming they are getting these “ideas” from school. From actually taking to the kids who identify this way, yes it does seem to have a fad element and appears that is very likely to be just a phase for many of them, but the parents are wrong that the kids are getting it from their teachers. From the mouths of the kids, it spreads among friend groups. One kid hears about a friend identifying as trans or non-binary and they start doing the same. I’m assuming the original is probably getting it from online

Out of the hundreds of LGBT (call me old school but I stop the letters there), I have yet to have a kid mention they read about being non-binary or trans in a school book. And these are naive kids, they wouldn’t have the conceptualization to keep this info from adults for political purposes obviously
I think it mainly depends on the region. I don't think many conservatives think it's happening everywhere (though some are definitely overstating it), I think most are more concerned about the trajectory it's heading, even if it's only happening in a handful of schools in super liberal cities currently. The characterization of these parents by the media is what really gets me.
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