Verant Logic: Necromancer vs Magician

[Kohedron]

Both are shit though if we're being honest

[Fammaden]

You guys ok in here?

[Gustoo]

A lot of classes are really good, basically all of the caster classes with mage being one of my least favorite because of lack of crowd control limiting their dungeon crawling capabilities.

Cleric
Druid
Necro
Enchanter
Wizard
Shaman
Bard

All melee lower because the mobs are physically super strong.

[Gustoo]

Also its worth noting that all the people not on this list (melee) are better in longer PVP bouts when decently geared, as the mana dependent end up having a shorter maximum fightspan as there is nothing like a fungi + so many variety of heals to make MANA come back.

Bard being the exception running rampant in outdoor zones indefinitely.

So as always, PVP makes the game balanced and 1000% better. The casters PVE efficacy versus the melees PVP endurance potential.

[Cecily]

I've spent a lot of time thinking about how absurd it is to have two people run at, swing and run past each other with swords. You know? Like they used to do in the old days, on horses.

It's impossible to take EQ PvP seriously, beyond its exceptional grief mechanics.

[starkind]

low level-1-40 untwinked ffa pvp is a lot of silly fun because its goofy af cecily thats why

it's not about griefing if ur griefing ppl on a pvp server you are 'mad'

people get called griefers all the time, but they are not really griefing they are just having fun

'lot of but' in this post but i can't fucking help it right now i'm decompensating again

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

low level-1-40 untwinked ffa pvp is a lot of silly fun because its goofy af cecily thats why

it's not about griefing if ur griefing ppl on a pvp server you are 'mad'

people get called griefers all the time, but they are not really griefing they are just having fun

'lot of but' in this post but i can't fucking help it right now i'm decompensating again

Fuck, did you kill someone?

[starkind]

I did [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they denied it and said they killed themselves tho

[Cecily]

Excuse me. Killing someone and sending them on a corpse run is a grief mechanic. Killing someone and looting their items is a grief mechanic. Training someone is a grief mechanic

PVP is fundamentally (or at least on a very significant level) about causing grief to another person IRL through in game actions. It's fueled by schadenfreude in MMOs in a way you don't see in other competitive games. Not saying that's a bad thing. It's usually pretty funny. This is a view point coming a griefer.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Excuse me. Killing someone and sending them on a corpse run is a grief mechanic. Killing someone and looting their items is a grief mechanic. Training someone is a grief mechanic

PVP is fundamentally (or at least on a very significant level) about causing grief to another person IRL through in game actions. It's fueled by schadenfreude in MMOs in a way you don't see in other competitive games. Not saying that's a bad thing. It's usually pretty funny. This is a view point coming a griefer.

Nah historically grieving did not mean following the accepted rules of pvp such as killing others and looting them

Griefing typically means going above and beyond to ruin someone’s gameplays experience. An example would be back in the day on pvp servers on vanilla WoW if someone really pissed me off I would sit on top of their body killing them over and over again while my guildmate was planted at the spirit healer (alternative place they could rez at) to kill them over and over again. The goal is eventually they just stop trying to rez and log off. That’s how you know you ruined your gameplay experience

I only did that a few times in my lifetime tho, normally I prefer fair pvp