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Old 11-01-2021, 11:12 PM
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Yeah. I'm trying to not be personally really mad.

I want to know if I could put like thousands of tiny aerodynamic ceramic projectiles in orbit. Thats what I'd be doing if I was an evil supervillain.
back before satellites were any good, the US govt launched roughly a billion needle sized metal shards into orbit to bounce radio signals off of

anything small-ish is gonna burn up upon re-entry tho, like the heat shield tiles work because its just one size of the tile being roasted on re-entry, and are constantly replaced on reusable vehicles

The thing about Evil supervillain plots on planet earth is that... if it's possible, someone has done or is doing it...

and then it circles back around to M.A.D.
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Old 11-01-2021, 11:17 PM
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I just have stuffed animals and a body pillow.

Anyway now I'm envisioning this system with manufacturing on the moon or capture and staging of smaller rocks. I mean. Thinking what it may take to get some smaller 1 mile sized asteroids in a pretty high orbit. I'm considering just a lot of time to tether some in gravitationally with some big heavy nuclear powered craft. Idk. I'd be trying to do it already.

Anyway id be manufacturing those projectiles so they could be moved in closer to their targets, maybe only finally targeted at just a few miles up. I feel like along with an autonomous drone army and some Boston dynamics robo bois thatd make for a pretty ruthless and evil force. About the only way around that one is burrowing deep and hiding.
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Old 11-01-2021, 11:20 PM
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I just have stuffed animals and a body pillow.
Yknow how those fedora wearing dudes have their Anime girl body pillows, props to this girl for showing how it would go in an alternate universe. His shirt even says M’lady [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 11-01-2021, 11:21 PM
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Yknow how those fedora wearing dudes have their Anime girl body pillows, props to this girl for showing how it would go in an alternate universe. His shirt even says M’lady [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 11-01-2021, 11:27 PM
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I just have stuffed animals and a body pillow.

Anyway now I'm envisioning this system with manufacturing on the moon or capture and staging of smaller rocks. I mean. Thinking what it may take to get some smaller 1 mile sized asteroids in a pretty high orbit. I'm considering just a lot of time to tether some in gravitationally with some big heavy nuclear powered craft. Idk. I'd be trying to do it already.

Anyway id be manufacturing those projectiles so they could be moved in closer to their targets, maybe only finally targeted at just a few miles up. I feel like along with an autonomous drone army and some Boston dynamics robo bois thatd make for a pretty ruthless and evil force. About the only way around that one is burrowing deep and hiding.
make a smallish rocket, put it on a trajectory to some big space rock, deploy "lander rockets" which attack to the surface, and will thrust the big space rock to your desired target.

Everybody is gonna see it coming so get it going REALLY fast, Near Earth Objects are tracked as much as possible, and you can try to launch a nuke at it, but be prepared to be disappointed, without any air to pressurize, nuclear weapons have like .1% of their atmospheric damage radius, basically just the detonation point and then the bomb's own pressurized gasses disperse. Which is like instantaneous in space. Would be a wonderful spectacle to see in the sky tho.

Then after your enemy nuked your asteroid bomb, it will rain millions of rocks down on the entire planet, with no real way of knowing where they will impact.

and you circle back to M.A.D.
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Old 11-01-2021, 11:44 PM
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Cheeper mutually assured destruction is the way to go.

Cheeper, lower maintenance. More reliable. Longer term.

Then put all the insurance companies in jail.

The tech I keep wanting to design would just make killing individual people or small groups easier tho. Because warfare is about killing terrorists and outlaws now.

Imagine the entire somali pirate fleet and their villages and "palaces" getting wiped from orbit. In one single attack. I feel like thats just a question of money and effort at this point.

Squatters in DC... just blare a siren and pelt the area with small antipersonell munitions.

Your buddy epstien getting out of hand? Just take out the boats docked on his private island.
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Old 11-02-2021, 12:03 AM
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based on what i read/watch the idea I get is something like this,

h00:m00 "Commander, we have detected an incoming projectile"

h00:m02 "Confirmed with X,Y,Z stations that we indeed have an incoming projectile"

h00:m03 "Projectile moving very fast, your orders Sir?"

h00:m05 "Relay instruction to alpha bravo charlie air defenses, intercept projectile at - BOOM!"
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Old 11-02-2021, 12:03 AM
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If the new missiles cheeper and requires less manpower to maintain its a win. Neither can be defended on a large scale tho. To sneak in close you can't go mach.

The whole point of point defense tho is its only defending a point. And is automated.. so its turned on and left on until "mission accomplished". No human interaction necessary at that point. I feel like u could pretty much track, and instantly destroy anything moving fast enough through atmo. Which will be easy for a point defense system to see. U can't be stealthy at mach speeds.



Lazers do exist and are producable and deployable in sufficient quantities. They can target and destroy normal ballistic shells midflight. This has been reliably done.

Between 910 and 1,070 m/s (3,000–3,500 ft/s)

It's likely that the missile specs may be overblown and puffed up some. So idk.

That's 5626.64 feet per second at mach 5 which imo can still be easily tracked via infrared and zapped.

So an area of like 50 square kilometers could plausibly be defended with classified weapons that "don't exist".
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Old 11-02-2021, 12:07 AM
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If the new missiles cheeper and requires less manpower to maintain its a win. Neither can be defended on a large scale tho.

The whole point of point defense tho is its only defending a point. And is automated.. so its turned on and left on until "mission accomplished". No human interaction necessary at that point. I feel like u could pretty much track, and instantly destroy anything moving fast enough through atmo. Lazers do exist and are producable and deployable in sufficient quantities. They can target and destroy normal ballistic shells midflight.

Between 910 and 1,070 m/s (3,000–3,500 ft/s)

It's likely that the missile specs may be overblown and puffed up some. So idk.

That's 5626.64 feet per second at mach 5 which imo can still be easily tracked via infrared and zapped.

So an area of like 50 square kilometers could plausibly be defended with classified weapons that "don't exist".
Lasers destroy things through heat which isn't a good defense in short-yardage situations.

Send boba.
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Old 11-02-2021, 12:14 AM
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short-yardage situations.
now you're talking about my one of my favorites! CIWS!

It reminds me of Battlestar Galactica's firing solution, even if its only one cannon, and galactica had like, a million.

Circling back to OP, apply A.I. to any of these systems, and that human element that takes minutes to hours to respond, reduces to seconds if you allow the A.I. to decide when to fire, and then its Skynet. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that attacker/defender pendulum really is gonna swing back and forth until we just destroy ourselves.
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