What have we not thought of

[Kiithsa]

We can't have a rotated server b/c it would cheapen your experience and make your effort a joke? The server split would hurt the population too much?

Per the admission of a few people here already, apparently such servers exist. "Go play on the TLP" they say.

If the idea that such servers existing cheapens the experience or hurts server population was true. Then that would be happening already. If TLP solved the problems that have been addressed here, then that's where people would be. Certainly not here in RnF offering solutions to issues they feel are relevant. It's really that simple.

I'm still waiting to hear how this would affect those who want competitive raiding. No one is trying to take that away from you. If anything this would give you the opportunity to have a server with a set of rules that is specific to that kind of raiding. Instead of trying to cater to both sides with things. (Bag limits, Drafts , etc)

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Kiithsa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm still waiting to hear how this would affect those who want competitive raiding. No one is trying to take that away from you. If anything this would give you the opportunity to have a server with a set of rules that is specific to that kind of raiding. Instead of trying to cater to both sides with things. (Bag limits, Drafts , etc)

Oh, how to say this without being a cringelord..

Same thrill that was found in gaming back then, no sense of empathy like that found online. Same as 'pwning noobs' and 'getting wrecked'. Some still keep the spirit alive, in a more muted form (age i guess).

Lesson to be learned: Get Good.

[Kiithsa]

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, how to say this without being a cringelord..

Same thrill that was found in gaming back then, no sense of empathy like that found online. Same as 'pwning noobs' and 'getting wrecked'. Some still keep the spirit alive, in a more muted form (age i guess).

Lesson to be learned: Get Good.

Getting good isn't what we're talking about. Those who want to compete can "get good" all they want. This is about being able to play the game in a way that we find fun, the competitive folks are doing the same thing. They've been "having fun" for quite a long time now, and again, no one is trying to take that away.

And let's not act like "pwning noobs" is a serious justification here. If that's what we're taking away from people by having a rotated server then I genuinely don't care, it's not a good reason.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Kiithsa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Getting good isn't what we're talking about. Those who want to compete can "get good" all they want. This is about being able to play the game in a way that we find fun, the competitive folks are doing the same thing. They've been "having fun" for quite a long time now, and again, no one is trying to take that away.

Yeah i get it, i wanted something similar once. You are not trying to take anything away but for some reason need to reason it with the people here. Why bother at all. If they opened up that server next week, the players who wanted to go will go. Same for blue or green server.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Kiithsa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And let's not act like "pwning noobs" is a serious justification here. If that's what we're taking away from people by having a rotated server then I genuinely don't care, it's not a good reason.

What does reason have to do with any of that or what makes fun in games.

[Kiithsa]

I bother because I feel like having the discussion is the only way things are going to change. You're right that I don't NEED to reason with the people here. If the P99 server staff wants to open that kind of server then they would just do it.

It is possible, just possible, that having the discussion and hammering out what works and what doesn't might attract the kind of change we want to see.

[Naethyn]

People often mistake neckbeards as wanting "competition" when the truth couldn't be further. What they actually want is to lord over pixels preventing any competition from actually forming.

[slard271]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People often mistake neckbeards as wanting "competition" when the truth couldn't be further. What they actually want is to lord over pixels preventing any competition from actually forming.

An inherent aspect of competition is actually winning. Who targets to win only 60 or blahblah% of the time? You target to win, period.

[Mblake1981]

<Fat Dragon>

[Tunabros]

Rogean is heavily against rotations and bag limits (but due to casual players bitching

about it, we have them now)

on green, bag limits will be coming back in a few months (some white dragon is gonna

wake up and cause shit to happen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

then your here bitching to us and begging the devs to make a server that fits your entitled

playstyle so you can enjoy WHAT YOU WANT?

my god, if you want to see dragons so bad, make a eqmeu server and run around or

summon BIS items for your horrible roleplay shovel half elf thingy (cringe)

Your logic:

Devs will listen to me and make a server that has fully rotated content. I'm sure

that players from green and blue will not leave to join it! I'm sure that p99 is 90%

neckbeards that way the rotated servers can be populated!

WRONG

Take all the sheep out and you have are wolves. They're gonna eat each other once there

are no sheep and the server will die.

GMs are already having to keep up with the bullshit on this server aka petitionquest

let alone manage a rotation between a billion guilds who all want in a rotation

oh and one more thing


sorry your bad at this game
hope this helps