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[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ya hate to say this guys even if u dont believe in the grant money going to failed college lgbtq sluts pipe dreams to save the XYZ or build a greenspace in slum X or a train to slum X the climate change and science is real, the pollution is real, the pesticides are real, even alex jones agrees RIP his soul be lobotimized they got him gud

the solutions differ

but the situation is real lol

pull ur head out ur ass and be honest pls

I don’t think many people think climate change isn’t real

It’s the role we humans are playing, and to a smaller extent what role America is playing versus places like China, that are most frequently debated

But yeah pollution sucks, especially for people like me sitting in a valley with the pollution on top. If you hike a tall mountain in my area you can actually look down on the pollution ring in the air and it’s sad. Also part of the reason I hate this mass immigration of commies fleeing their own failed tax/housing policies in CA and illegals from the border to my state. We don’t need the extra pollution

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don’t think many people think climate change isn’t real

It’s the role we humans are playing, and to a smaller extent what role America is playing versus places like China, that are most frequently debated

People simultaneously pretend to care about the continuation of the human race while also hoping half of them die. It's completely nonsensical.

Also climate change is completely natural because humans are part of nature. To the extent that we are actually contributing to it, it is almost certainly very minimal.

Also, to implement radical green-energy policy would spell certain death for most of the world's poor, who have clearly not been factored into idiotic proposals like the "green new deal". Thanks AOC for your highschool cheerleader-level political insights, they are truly invaluable.

[starkind]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don’t think many people think climate change isn’t real

It’s the role we humans are playing, and to a smaller extent what role America is playing versus places like China, that are most frequently debated

But yeah pollution sucks, especially for people like me sitting in a valley with the pollution on top. If you hike a tall mountain in my area you can actually look down on the pollution ring in the air and it’s sad. Also part of the reason I hate this mass immigration of commies fleeing their own failed tax/housing policies in CA and illegals from the border to my state. We don’t need the extra pollution

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People simultaneously pretend to care about the continuation of the human race while also hoping half of them die. It's completely nonsensical.

Also climate change is completely natural because humans are part of nature. To the extent that we are actually contributing to it, it is almost certainly very minimal.

Also, to implement radical green-energy policy would spell certain death for most of the world's poor, who have clearly not been factored into idiotic proposals like the "green new deal". Thanks AOC for your highschool cheerleader-level political insights, they are truly invaluable.

instant death lol

but ya pretty much agree

but poor could live an agrarian lifestyle with very little fire and power and subsist in a healthier environment than they do now

no exbox tho

[alphys]

No reading though, so they never will try to leave their place.

We are heading towards the collectivistic group hive of thought soon and the explicit response to climate change deniers shows how quickly media and political influences can alter "normal socially acceptable sphere "

no longer being able to read or do math is now a requirement for a submissive lower caste perfectly matched for perpetuation of capital gains
Carbon credits soon.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People simultaneously pretend to care about the continuation of the human race while also hoping half of them die. It's completely nonsensical.
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Also, to implement radical green-energy policy would spell certain death for most of the world's poor, who have clearly not been factored into idiotic proposals like the "green new deal". Thanks AOC for your highschool cheerleader-level political insights, they are truly invaluable.

Re-read your own first sentence, then the second bit. Those folks on that side are not so stupid as you might think, and you better believe they've worked out that same math you have.

Danth

[Danth]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also part of the reason I hate this mass immigration of commies fleeing their own failed tax/housing policies in CA and illegals from the border to my state. We don’t need the extra pollution

The automotive industry is managing to gradually turn even me against them with their peddling of crap like 5,000 pound Jeeps and Broncos and complete refusal to even try to be sensible. I grew up making fun of those ridiculous 70's land barges, and here we are back to making stuff that's just as heavy and absurd, and that we'll also be making fun of in the not-too-distant future. I think the government's present 10-year policy is going too far the other way--an over-reaction--but something's gotta give because the industry is becoming absurd and seems incapable of self control.

I realized the other day, almost with horror, while looking through a junkyard, that I'd rather drive an '81 Reliant than a '2021 Bronco. More to the point, I'd rather drive that design philosophy with 40 years of refinement rather than what amounts to a modern equivalent of a '77 LTD.

Danth

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The automotive industry is managing to gradually turn even me against them with their peddling of crap like 5,000 pound Jeeps and Broncos and complete refusal to even try to be sensible. I grew up making fun of those ridiculous 70's land barges, and here we are back to making stuff that's just as heavy and absurd, and that we'll also be making fun of in the not-too-distant future. I think the government's present 10-year policy is going too far the other way--an over-reaction--but something's gotta give because the industry is becoming absurd and seems incapable of self control.

I realized the other day, almost with horror, while looking through a junkyard, that I'd rather drive an '81 Reliant than a '2021 Bronco. More to the point, I'd rather drive that design philosophy with 40 years of refinement rather than what amounts to a modern equivalent of a '77 LTD.

Danth

Ya, I haven’t been following it as closely, but I’d never buy a “land barge” (lol good term) just because of the super shit gas mileage they get. My work commute is like 25 miles one-way. And when I go kayaking on the weekends that’s like 60 miles one-way. I just got a new 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD, that’s what I rockin now (only do pickups because I do kayak fairly often, only because my dad absolutely fucking loves kayaking so it’s a way to spend time)

What I discovered when researching into the mid-sizes is that some are moving towards a smaller cylinder engine and turbo’ing them. I heard mixed reports that this may become more and more prevalent due to EPA and stuff. For example, the new Ford Ranger is a 4 cyl twin turbo. I was considering it as a possible purchase but was worried about the longevity of a turbo blower. But from what I heard that also has improved quite a bit over time

[walfreyydo]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

with their peddling of crap like 5,000 pound Jeeps and Broncos and complete refusal to even try to be sensible.

The Tesla model S weights nearly 5,000 lbs. The F150 lightning will presumably weigh in at 5,500 lbs. Hummer EV is tipping the scales at almost 10,000 lbs.

Yes, some auto manufacturers are still pumping out heavy, gasoline powered cars. But you cant unring the EV bell and I think the move to EVs is accelerating ever so quickly.

GM is even making EV crate motors which bolt right into any GM bellhousing, allowing you to convert your classic muscle to EV. So to me, the writing is on the wall.

[starkind]

we should try nuking one just with a smal nuke just to see what happens hopefully it opens a portal and the burning legion comes pouring thru cuz those are the best hoofplateguys

[Danth]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we should try nuking one just with a smal nuke...

Couple kiloton tactical nuke isn't going to do jack to something that big. You'll need something in the multiple megaton range to even think about doing anything and supposedly (I have my doubts) we don't have anything that big even left in our arsenal. Even if we did, and even if it worked, trading wind and flood damage for widespread nuclear fallout doesn't seem like a very prudent trade. Airburst reduces local fallout, granted, but you'll still have the various other problems relating to dispersion of fissioned materials.

It's an interesting thought, though. Historic above-ground nuclear tests were pretty well always done during good weather so as to maximize the amount of data gathered. Did the Soviets ever do bad-weather testing? I think they ran more tests than we did.

Danth