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[Nexii]

I don't think sugar is so bad in moderation. We need sugar (glucose) to live, much like fat, protein, etc.

What's really bad are the fake sugars and foods with no fat that make you eat way more sugar due to over-hunger feelings.

I avoid buying pop and chips. Occasionally as a treat when eating out but hardly ever at the grocery store. I'll sin on chocolate instead.

Going pescetarian has been interesting. Haven't felt all that different on the whole. Maybe just proof that we're omnivorous and can adapt well.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Cassawary [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But it's natural

Heavenly Father, I pray for all the lost and confused souls in today’s generation…I pray you give them a mind of understanding and ears and eyes to reason with the problems of life today,,

I pray for our Christian brothers and sisters for guidance and protection and most of all, I pray for our unity as one in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth Amen God be with you all shalom.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Nexii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think sugar is so bad in moderation. We need sugar (glucose) to live, much like fat, protein, etc.

What's really bad are the fake sugars and foods with no fat that make you eat way more sugar due to over-hunger feelings.

I avoid buying pop and chips. Occasionally as a treat when eating out but hardly ever at the grocery store. I'll sin on chocolate instead.

Going pescetarian has been interesting. Haven't felt all that different on the whole. Maybe just proof that we're omnivorous and can adapt well.

Fish are smart trainable and feel stuff. Like humans.

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How to train your fish https://imgur.com/gallery/vPs0zps

[magnetaress]

I just did 20g of apricot preserved in a high fructose matrix instead of sugar with my all bran.

No milk.

Feeling weird.

Not sure it is better but at least not sugar this time. IF I was rich I would have paid someone a living wage to pick me a fresh apricot from my holdings.

Come to think on it, I enjoy apricot a lot, wonder if it is on the alkaline diet.

[HalflingSpergand]

To be fair those fish are cichlids. Much smarter than your average retard fish

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by HalflingSpergand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be fair those fish are cichlids. Much smarter than your average retard fish

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[HalflingSpergand]

Haha im annoyinf

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by imperiouskitten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

main issue with simple sugar is it is needs no metabolysis to function as fuel. so all it has to do is get into solution and it over-sugars you, causing an insulin spike to compensate for basically an overdose. those insulin spikes have some really wide reaching effects downstream, so many that we probably don't know all the ways it hurts you, but u can read about that.

more complex sugars are essentially glucose held in molecular chains, so the chain has to be chewed up before u get dosed with the sugar, so it hits smoother and the same volume of glucose sustains you for longer, like time release adderall. proteins are metabolized into their constituent amino acids, not glucose, which is the main thing which makes pokesan wrong. Although there is a pathway for taking the chemical energy out of amino acids to invest it into fuel, it is an alternative pathway and doesn't involve glucose, sort of a backup starvation pathway (abused in all-meat diets, turns ur pee into caustic stinking brown stew, while starving ur brain for glucose which probably atrophies it, turning u into Joe Rogan). Other things are "vitamins", those are miscellaneous compounds with various properties which are not sugar either, and "fiber", which actually is made of a sugar chain but u don't digest it because it's built into basically indigestable plant-plastic.

fat metabolizes down to glucose too tho yes iirc. but not all fatty acids *do* get metabolized into glucose, because they are of structural use.

*note:i am treating ATP and glucose pretty interchangeably here

Thank you for this discussion. I miss the Kreb's Cycle and I learn more about it every time I go back. I had a surgeon tell me epinephrine was only a vasoconstrictor when I told him it was both a vasoconstrictor and vasodialator. Shoulda stuck to my guns. It IS both, depending on alpha or beta receptor. He's probably more right than me, but it feels nice to know that I'm still right. Also, you didn't answer my previous query. Don't read ill intent into it. Genuinely curious.

Looks like fat mostly skips the pyruvate stage which you get two of from a glucose molecule and jumps into kreb's cycle as acetyl-CoA after fatty acid chains undergo beta oxidation. This is significant because the nervous system only runs on glucose. Do you know why? I don't.

Edit: Just learned ketones act as brain fuel, too, albeit probably worse than glucose and 100% turn you into Joe Rogan.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just did 20g of apricot preserved in a high fructose matrix instead of sugar with my all bran.

No milk.

Feeling weird.

Not sure it is better but at least not sugar this time. IF I was rich I would have paid someone a living wage to pick me a fresh apricot from my holdings.

Come to think on it, I enjoy apricot a lot, wonder if it is on the alkaline diet.

Had to massively cut back our apricots this winter, hopefully will grow back well, because the fruit we produce are decent and it would be a shame to lose them.

Hoping to create another olive plantation this year. I don't like them much myself, but apparently I'm in the minority here.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Had to massively cut back our apricots this winter, hopefully will grow back well, because the fruit we produce are decent and it would be a shame to lose them.

Hoping to create another olive plantation this year. I don't like them much myself, but apparently I'm in the minority here.

Yeah me either. At least you can get them fresh. Green or ripened.

Australia 🇦🇺?

Also that is cool you grow stuff. High fives!