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Old 01-26-2021, 02:03 PM
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Sorry to you folks that were super triggered by having this pointed out lol.
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Old 01-26-2021, 02:11 PM
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Proceeds to post 10+ times in a thread calling Kittens out "Sorry you guys got triggered lol"
sorry you got triggered by my being sorry you got triggered. hope this helps.
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Old 01-26-2021, 02:10 PM
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Sorry to you folks that were super triggered by having this pointed out lol.
Personally, I'm not triggered, I'm just having a logical debate in RNF because despite being on this server for 10 years I have never learned.
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Old 01-26-2021, 02:10 PM
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Personally, I'm not triggered, I'm just having a logical debate in RNF because despite being on this server for 10 years I have never learned.
Fuck, 11 years. What is wrong with me.
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Old 01-26-2021, 07:29 PM
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He likes competitive EQ

Want rotations ? go play animal crossing, cunt.
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Old 01-26-2021, 07:44 PM
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Respectfully, it sounds like Kittens & Co. do not have an issue with competing, you both actually are in agreement on that issue! The need that I am identifying is that the Kittens want to feel acknowledged and to have some input on rules that can effect them.

Freedom appears to think that Kittens do not have legitimate standing to be making demands for reform. The objective criteria to be hashed out here is what constitutes legitimate standing - is it regular presence or simply having been in a position to be effected by the existing rules? I feel like there is a zone of agreement that would work for both parties. An alternative ruleset probably wouldn't work on grounds of 'fairness'. Perhaps simple inclusion in the discussion is enough after determining a proper objective criteria? Thoughts??
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Old 01-26-2021, 07:46 PM
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He likes competitive EQ

Want rotations ? go play animal crossing, cunt.
You still can't read, can you Viscere? I'm sure there are some copies of Hooked on Phonics still out there that could help!

It wasn't a push for rotations. It was a way to include all the guilds in the new proposals. Fair and balanced between all entities. The two guilds who argued and ultimately pushed that idea under the table were Freedom (and to a lesser extent AG due to the nature of Freedom's influence in their return to the raid scene).

Furor and Detoxx have two of the largest voices in the UN channel. More often than not, they are the ones who get their way in the changes assigned to the raid scene. This is done to ensure that they have an edge (looking at you footraces). Riot only agreed to end the ban. If they had not, then I do not doubt that the ban would still be in effect. Please do not let this fact escape your tiny brain.

Don't worry though, Detoxx will one day see you buddy! Keep on touting that party line!

You mother fucking need Jesus and Hooked on Phonics.
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Old 01-26-2021, 08:57 PM
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One thing is abundantly clear, the powers that be want nothing more than the status quo, because why would they want anything other than that? Everything so far is half measures that ultimately lead to a one guild monopoly dominating the raid scene for as long as they can keep members interested. Rinse. Repeat. Ride the wave as long as you can.

Want to see meaningful change in the raid scene by reducing the total number of petitions, and us vs them toxicity, while still fostering a competitive environment?

K1C1 (kill one concede one) is the answer.
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Old 01-26-2021, 11:08 PM
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One thing is abundantly clear, the powers that be want nothing more than the status quo, because why would they want anything other than that? Everything so far is half measures that ultimately lead to a one guild monopoly dominating the raid scene for as long as they can keep members interested. Rinse. Repeat. Ride the wave as long as you can.

Want to see meaningful change in the raid scene by reducing the total number of petitions, and us vs them toxicity, while still fostering a competitive environment?

K1C1 (kill one concede one) is the answer.
Wouldn't K1C1 basically just be a rotation between Riot and FRAG?
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Old 01-26-2021, 11:16 PM
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Wouldn't K1C1 basically just be a rotation between Riot and FRAG?
I don't think FRAG will continue to cooperate if K1C1 is on.

By adding a third faction (or more) the "us vs them" toxicity that leads to petitions every cycle is broken. The eventuality of our current state is one guild taking over uncontested - it happens every time. If competition is the goal the only way to ensure it is to remove the eventuality of the one guild monopoly, and K1C1 does just that. Everything else has always lead to the same result.

Don't be fooled, the people who don't want K1C1 don't really want competition - they want their turn at pixel lordship.
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