Miscellaneous: Summary of Bard issues - Page 8

Jete · #71 07-27-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Serin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

heh, one big song issue..

Kelin's Lucid Lullaby should be a pbae song with a range of about 25, rather than a single target song.

http://web.archive.org/web/200108230...ell.asp?Id=996

proofs =p

it wasn't changed to a single target till 2002ish

I think we tried bug reporting this before and were shut down, but lets try it again!

Edit- give me a second and ill put it in.

jangos · #72 07-30-2010, 11:45 PM

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I think we tried bug reporting this before and were shut down, but lets try it again!

Edit- give me a second and ill put it in.

Yeah I know you wanna be classic and all but the old version (pbaoe) had NO EFFECT. You could NOT mez ANYTHING.

Secondly. I would like to add. Bard dots are not stacking with other bard dots.

Jete · #73 07-31-2010, 12:37 AM

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Yeah I know you wanna be classic and all but the old version (pbaoe) had NO EFFECT. You could NOT mez ANYTHING.

Secondly. I would like to add. Bard dots are not stacking with other bard dots.

Jangos, can you write up a bug report for that? We had that same issue a while back...

I'm still doing research on the AoE mez, I have read about it before though, trying to find some video evidence.

Also- my main goal is to get charm fixed, its superbly bugged with aggro right now. Just pointing that out so you guys know what page I am on.

mmiles8 · #74 07-31-2010, 01:00 AM

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Yeah I know you wanna be classic and all but the old version (pbaoe) had NO EFFECT. You could NOT mez ANYTHING.

Secondly. I would like to add. Bard dots are not stacking with other bard dots.

The dot stacking is not a bug and was addressed in your previous thread here:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=12978

The chants are special cases in dot stacking and not allowed to stack for balance reasons. This is intended.

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Here you should find sufficient information on lucid lullaby with dated comments:

http://web.archive.org/web/200105220...ell.asp?Id=996

guineapig · #75 07-31-2010, 03:46 AM

Oh my god why the hell would anyone want Kellin's changed to the original version? At least now the mez is useful. Sure it takes 9 seconds to mez 3 mobs instead of 3 seconds... but at least it lands.

This is basically the main reason low level bards get groups before level 32. It would be a shame to take it away from them.

mmiles8 · #76 07-31-2010, 04:29 AM

Bugs with the song aside, if it had worked as intended, it would have been more powerful in its original incarnation.

The bug was with secondary saves (charisma check after mr check for example) On a song that lasted 1 tick, the secondary saves were being checked all at once. Instead of breaking early at a subsequent tick, it was simply not functioning because there was no subsequent tick to break at.

Coalrymer · #77 07-31-2010, 04:12 PM

Seemed like the best place to put this. So, Bard hide and sneak.

They don't seem to work together. I can have a good sneak (shows indiff to kos mob when its back is to me) and a good hide (shows indif to mob facing me) however when I move it breaks hide. I've tried this several times today.

Arkis · #78 07-31-2010, 04:16 PM

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Seemed like the best place to put this. So, Bard hide and sneak.

They don't seem to work together. I can have a good sneak (shows indiff to kos mob when its back is to me) and a good hide (shows indif to mob facing me) however when I move it breaks hide. I've tried this several times today.

Hide and sneak together is a rogue only ability.

Serin · #79 07-31-2010, 05:37 PM

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Hide and sneak together is a rogue only ability.

^this..

astuce999 · #80 07-31-2010, 11:45 PM

Still waiting on lvl 32 mana song to return to its original form (wmp please).

Also, Bind Sight song (Lvl 34 Lyssa's Solidarity of Vision) does not work on corpses. In classic, a great way to scout, pull, and especially find corpses, was a combination of the two lyssa's lvl 4 Locating Lyric, and lvl 34.

Thirdly, and this might piss off some bards, but classic is classic, bards should not be affected by any kind of mana regeneration spells, nor any kind of mana drains. Currently, clarity and our own mana songs help us, I haven't tried manastone or mod rods but I presume they do as well. In the same vein, sitting to meditate should only yield 1 extra mana (for a total of 2 per tick), and not the amount it gives now (didn'tcount but about 15 ish).

thanks for your time,

Astuce Subterfuge