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[enatomi]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everquest is a work of art. You can't try to duplicate a Picasso and pass it off as your own. You can only LEARN from that other work of art and attempt to do something better yourself.

What a retarded statement. This server isn't about "creativity" or "optimization". The point is to recreate Everquest exactly how it was, so we can relive the feelings we experienced on Live - including the frustrations, imbalances, problems, etc. It was all part of the classic experience then, and you can't change it now.

Maybe some of your suggestions would have made for a all around better experience the first time around, but that's irrelevant to p1999 - if they were implemented now they would go against what this server is about.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by enatomi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What a retarded statement. This server isn't about "creativity" or "optimization". The point is to recreate Everquest exactly how it was, so we can relive the feelings we experienced on Live - including the frustrations, imbalances, problems, etc. It was all part of the classic experience then, and you can't change it now.

You CAN'T relive the feelings you experienced on Live by going about it in this manner. It's like saying you want to relive having sex for the first time by hooking up with a 16 year old girl when you are 50 years old. Doesn't work that way.

Look at people asking "where do I hunt???" and players answering with a gigantic list of exactly where they should go, exactly what they should hunt, and how they should do it. That is not classic Everquest.

You can never get the exact same thing back, you can only get the same type of feeling. And that is why I am posting here - because I DO believe in the classic EQ experience and I feel that I know how to recreate the classic EQ experience such that, in 2011 and beyond, we will have a game where we feel LIKE we did about the game during the classic era.

[soup]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

* Only if the developers are not in fact following "the timeline". Kunark was introduced to p1999 a few months ago, yes? That means Velious should come out in six months, which means "the timeline" should end in a total of 1 year and 6 months, seeing as that would be when Luclin would have come out.

* Planning ahead is bad? Not on my watch!

Except that these people do this in their free time. It's not like a perfectly classic version of Velious is sitting there waiting to be enabled. They have to make things right first, which takes a LOT of time. I don't know how familiar you are with coding, but that shit takes a lot of work.

As for planning ahead, that's fine and dandy, except the developers have their plates full, and you aren't involved in any kind of planning process.

People are here to play classic EQ, but you want to put in custom changes to make things "better" because you want to play some ideal version of EQ on the server with a large population. You could go try to setup your own ideal version of EQ and try to get people to play there if you want. Or you can accept what the goal of this server is.

[soup]

In essence, what you're doing is asking them to change their goal. Why don't you go to the forums for one of the custom servers and offer suggestions, since those places don't have the goal of following the original timeline? If you want to offer advice or input, it's probably better to stick with stuff that isn't asking them to change their goal.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In essence, what you're doing is asking them to change their goal.

Usually a good thing to do after you realize your goal is impossible.

And, no, I'm not specifically saying they need to change their goal. If people want to try and experience EQ exactly as it was, then be my guest. I guarantee you will fail, but you can try. And once "the timeline" runs out changes will need to be made and/or content will need to be added. So, again, if you do not want to participate in thinking ahead, you should really just go log into the game right now and stop posting.

In actuality, you probably ARE playing the game right now and minimizing during downtime to do other things on the internet. Hey, guess what, that is not classic EQ.

[username17]

The goal of p1999 is not to provide a classic experience.
The goal is to provide a Day 1 - Velious server on the same time line as Live.
This is absolutely possible.

As stated before, everyone's 'classic' experience is different. People come and go, join late, join early, etc. It's up to the players to experience the game how they please

The devs are here are to provide a means, the end is up to the player.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by username17 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The devs are here are to provide a means.

Exactly, it just needs to be established what means are necessary to achieve the desired result.

[username17]

By what means? They stick to the goal by not making random changes that are proven to have NOT existed at our current point in the time line.

Any/all changes are verified and proven to have existed on Live at our specific point in the time line.
Suggestions for changing things to mirror that which was NOT on live is pointless and a waste of time.

Edit: No one cares about your suggestions because we are too busy enjoying our classic experience.
(Forgive me here for speaking as the whole) When the time comes that we have reached the end of our journey and done everything there is to do, then we can discuss making non-classic changes.

[soup]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Usually a good thing to do after you realize your goal is impossible.

And, no, I'm not specifically saying they need to change their goal. If people want to try and experience EQ exactly as it was, then be my guest. I guarantee you will fail, but you can try. And once "the timeline" runs out changes will need to be made and/or content will need to be added. So, again, if you do not want to participate in thinking ahead, you should really just go log into the game right now and stop posting.

In actuality, you probably ARE playing the game right now and minimizing during downtime to do other things on the internet. Hey, guess what, that is not classic EQ.

And hey, guess what, the server isn't about catering a classic experience to each player. It's about recreating the original EQ timeline. That is the goal, and any suggesting in regards to custom content is counterproductive to that goal. So by suggesting these stuff you are either asking them to change their goal, or ignore it to make you happy. Both are pointless and bordering on rude. They have a goal. Recreate the original EQ timeline. If you want to help, find stuff that isn't classic, find evidence to show what would make it classic, then submit your evidence. Anything past that is just a pipe dream.

Why aren't you going to servers that have a custom experience as their goal and offering your suggestions there? Why do you come to the server that has a goal of recreating the classic timeline and propose non-classic additions, when there are servers specifically for custom content? Oh, right, because you want YOUR vision of the best EQ to be thrown onto this server because this is where everyone is playing. Why is everyone playing here? Because it's recreating classic EQ, not making some custom version.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is everyone playing here? Because it's recreating classic EQ, not making some custom version.

Yes, everyone wants to relive the glory days. People think that because EQ is being recreated in paint-by-the-book fashion, they will get the same experience as before (or be able to experience what they heard about and missed out on). I'm simply arguing that such a thing is not the case and I'm completely sure everyone would still want to play on this server if there were minor deviations made from the paint-by-the-book model that would improve the product and in fact create MORE of a classic EQ experience.