Proposed amendment to Scout Roll

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Force people to play the game for loot

I’m confused. Are you complaining that scout roll forces people to play the game, or do you feel arranging a low level raid mob fight with other players on the server to complete a quest isn’t playing the game?

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m confused. Are you complaining that scout roll forces people to play the game, or do you feel arranging a low level raid mob fight with other players on the server to complete a quest isn’t playing the game?

Logging a toon in for 8 minutes every 10 hours to type /ran 1000 then rinse and repeat until you get free loot is not playing the game. It's a loot conveyor belt.

[Jimjam]

Oh you seem to have misunderstood, you don’t just get ‘free loot’ for winning a random. You still have to do the faction work, leg work for the quest as well as helping out on all the fights you /random for.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh you seem to have misunderstood, you don’t just get ‘free loot’ for winning a random. You still have to do the faction work, leg work for the quest as well as helping out on all the fights you /random for.

Like I said, it’s free conveyor belt loot for not playing the game.

GMs plz save neckbeard play nicers from themselves

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like I said, it’s free conveyor belt loot for not playing the game.

GMs plz save neckbeard play nicers from themselves

If a scheduled open server raid isn’t playing the game then I don’t know what is.

[Fammaden]

Every time you've tried floating the idea in /ooc at populated rolls, its met with nearly complete indifferent silence. As Loramin's explained repeatedly about player agreements, you have to win the people "on the ground", not succeed in a theoretical discussion on the boards.

Not an attack here, just the way it is. I think more people want it to stay the same for various reasons than want to risk changing it. And the risk of it devolving into a toxic clickfest is probably as much of a reason or more for many of them than just that they are rolling on alts.

We know that the additional restriction would be nearly unenforceable and we can't expect GM's to police it. So one pissed off shitlord's 50 monk burning a spawn turn in would be enough to start a chain reaction that ruins the whole thing for all of us.

I said a while back that I felt like it is already won by 55+'s the majority of the time and the lowbie winners were more the exception. Maybe if someone was running stats on it to show me that wasn't true I'd be inclined to change my mind.

[Fammaden]

I'm going to start recording the levels of the people who win, will report back with all my numbers from July. I won't be at ALL of them by any means but I tend to at least average one roll a day over a month probably.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm going to start recording the levels of the people who win, will report back with all my numbers from July. I won't be at ALL of them by any means but I tend to at least average one roll a day over a month probably.

What if you win tomorrow? are you still gonna log in to record the levels of winners?

[QUOTE someone else

Statistically yes, yes it is fair. Rolls are statistically fair. When you look at all the things we roll for in game, everyone has equally bad luck.

a trend has become prolific in 2020:

Something does not favor me exclusively, so everyone and the whole world must change!

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What if you win tomorrow? are you still gonna log in to record the levels of winners?

Yeah I'll start doing it on another toon. If I win on that one too before the end of the month then I'm done with scout probably forever and I'll just post whatever I'd gotten. It wont be at all surprising if I'm still rolling at the end of the month.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I'll start doing it on another toon. If I win on that one too before the end of the month then I'm done with scout probably forever and I'll just post whatever I'd gotten. It wont be at all surprising if I'm still rolling at the end of the month.

This is the beauty of scout roll. It is an infinite conveyor belt of characters that guarantees there is always a friendly, welcoming raid force to play with. You just get to play the game with other players as intended without anyone gatekeeping, monopolising, creating artificial scarcity or pay walls.

Play, have fun, make friends and if lucky eventually get an item or two.