Patch Notes: Wednesday, March 25, 2020

[zaneosak]

Originally Posted by Peck [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can we confirm that HHK only got nerfed by 25%? It feels a lot more.

I believe rogean worded his post confusingly. He means that the zone is SET TO X amount. Not increased by.

For example that high keep would be set to negative 25% baseline. Which is a base xp penalty. Kind of like lake of I'll omen. The new zem in HHK would be 56.25. Down from 150. 75 is 0 bonus, normal xp.

[Peck]

Originally Posted by zaneosak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe rogean worded his post confusingly. He means that the zone is SET TO X amount. Not increased by.

For example that high keep would be set to negative 25% baseline. Which is a base xp penalty. Kind of like lake of I'll omen. The new zem in HHK would be 56.25. Down from 150. 75 is 0 bonus, normal xp.

Then that would make sense, because HHK is noticeable now.

[Trinost]

Originally Posted by zaneosak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe rogean worded his post confusingly. He means that the zone is SET TO X amount. Not increased by.

For example that high keep would be set to negative 25% baseline. Which is a base xp penalty. Kind of like lake of I'll omen. The new zem in HHK would be 56.25. Down from 150. 75 is 0 bonus, normal xp.

No where did I read anything you just wrote. They nvr said hey we took hhk to base THEN dropped it 25%...only that they dropped it 25% aka 150-25= 125. Magic (pow...bam...math...). What you are saying is confusing people.

[Larethan]

While this is something to celebrate, I have to take a step back and state that pathing in zones like Infected Paw is so bad that any amount of ZEM may still not be worth hunting there. From what I remember, it's almost a guarantee that every mob in zone will train after going through the double doors to bridge, and they do see invis.

[Trinost]

Originally Posted by Larethan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While this is something to celebrate, I have to take a step back and state that pathing in zones like Infected Paw is so bad that any amount of ZEM may still not be worth hunting there. From what I remember, it's almost a guarantee that every mob in zone will train after going through the double doors to bridge, and they do see invis.

There at double doors LOOK UP there is a bridge....pathing mob there is what causes trains. Otherwise zone is fine. In past clerics healed through walls but otherwise meh.

[Larethan]

Originally Posted by Trinost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There at double doors LOOK UP there is a bridge....pathing mob there is what causes trains. Otherwise zone is fine. In past clerics healed through walls but otherwise meh.

Should probably report this as a bug because the entire zone is essentially off limits due to that MOB.

[Trinost]

Originally Posted by Larethan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should probably report this as a bug because the entire zone is essentially off limits due to that MOB.

Not a bug. Works as intended. Dude paths from two points and if unlucky and didnt look up to make sure he wasn't above ya, you caused a massive train. Dungeons are supposed to be a challenge and take bit of thought. But ppl seem to forget to look around sometimes like UP LOL. So yeah just make sure to look up wait for him to not be there or get invs at entrance like guk. Simple stuff. Rhey don't see invis btw, likely bridge dude saw you b4 invis spell cast. Ran through here plenty with invis.

[Larethan]

Originally Posted by Trinost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not a bug. Works as intended. Dude paths from two points and if unlucky and didnt look up to make sure he wasn't above ya, you caused a massive train. Dungeons are supposed to be a challenge and take bit of thought. But ppl seem to forget to look around sometimes like UP LOL. So yeah just make sure to look up wait for him to not be there or get invs at entrance like guk. Simple stuff. Rhey don't see invis btw, likely bridge dude saw you b4 invis spell cast. Ran through here plenty with invis.

Don't remember classic being that way and if you think groups are gonna know exactly what to do with this obscure situation then we will continue seeing Splitpaw empty, because they won't know. If the team is wanting to make zones more accessible with ZEM then I think it might be worth considering alterations to pathing / mob behavior as well in the most extreme cases.

[damianicus]

Was Karnor’s changed?

[bivouac]

I copied over P99 Wiki's consolidated ZEM list from EQMac to a spreadsheet and calculated the new ZEMs presuming the wiki values are correct for P99 too. Red highlighted rows seem like they were probably incorrect for P99 because they break the ZEM pattern of similar zones. (open the spoiler to view)

 

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