Watched the Nag kill, is classic raiding just cheese?

[Izmael]

Pretty sure that if the PvP community made an effort to be seen as welcoming on the forums, the red server would be different.

90% of the posts from the red players are either cringy attempts at trolling, or trying to make them look better than the "bluebies". Very rarely a red player is being nice and friendly on the forums. No matter how much of a nerdy glass-wearing dweeb they are IRL they will constantly talk smack trying to sound "gangsta". I bet some of them literally reread their posts before clicking submit and remove punctuation and capitalization so they appear even more "hardcore'.

The literally only exceptions to this cringefest I can think of are Swish and Tala.

Guess this didn't work out too well for the server as noone seems to be impressed by how tough the red players are or is willing to hang out with them.

[Raclen]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure that if the PvP community made an effort to be seen as welcoming on the forums, the red server would be different.

90% of the posts from the red players are either cringy attempts at trolling, or trying to make them look better than the "bluebies". Very rarely a red player is being nice and friendly on the forums. No matter how much of a nerdy glass-wearing dweeb they are IRL they will constantly talk smack trying to sound "gangsta". I bet some of them literally reread their posts before clicking submit and remove punctuation and capitalization so they appear even more "hardcore'.

The literally only exceptions to this cringefest I can think of are Swish and Tala.

Guess this didn't work out too well for the server as noone seems to be impressed by how tough the red players are or is willing to hang out with them.

Blue has a lot of cringy trolls as well. Red has popularity but the severs just have a shorter shelf life than blue servers. It is the nature of competing vs players that get stronger instead of the environment that stays the same for 20 years. If Red99 opened a new server there would be a healthy population. It would actually work really well with the green recycle type servers. Red99 1.0 had a good population and the server was a joke. It would be much more polished now then it was when it opened. There were a lot of broken mechanics, awful rules like exp loss on pvp death, and corrupt GMs doing stuff for $$.

The worst issue I have seen with recent red99 besides being stale is the play nice policy rules. The amount of /petitions each guild does is a negative, which is also awful on blue I'm sure. That is something that should not be on a red server. The PvP servers are meant to be more of a sandbox, policed by the community and less rules. Training and everything else should be legal outside of exploits/3rd party programs. PvP servers are meant for people that want more of an immersive, competitive or roleplaying experience outside of the core game content.

[zodium]

Originally Posted by Raclen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blue has a lot of cringy trolls as well. Red has popularity but the severs just have a shorter shelf life than blue servers. It is the nature of competing vs players that get stronger instead of the environment that stays the same for 20 years. If Red99 opened a new server there would be a healthy population. It would actually work really well with the green recycle type servers. Red99 1.0 had a good population and the server was a joke. It would be much more polished now then it was when it opened. There were a lot of broken mechanics, awful rules like exp loss on pvp death, and corrupt GMs doing stuff for $$.

The worst issue I have seen with recent red99 besides being stale is the play nice policy rules. The amount of /petitions each guild does is a negative, which is also awful on blue I'm sure. That is something that should not be on a red server. The PvP servers are meant to be more of a sandbox, policed by the community and less rules. Training and everything else should be legal outside of exploits/3rd party programs. PvP servers are meant for people that want more of an immersive, competitive or roleplaying experience outside of the core game content.

ok, i'd play a 3-month cycle "one day before Kunark launch" era pvp server

[Raclen]

Originally Posted by zodium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ok, i'd play a 3-month cycle "one day before Kunark launch" era pvp server

I like the RoZ cycle they are doing, 6 months classic, kunark, velious then luclin. I will stop playing after Kunark myself. Some people are not excited about the 6 months of classic but I will enjoy the 2-3 months extra in classic over any time in Velious/Luclin anyways.

[Legidias]

Join PvP where you're lvl 1 and youre vs lvl 60's in raid gear

[Daldaen]

PvP exists on Green, Teal and Blue. Just go to any starting city arena and go at it. Or go to Lake Rathetear and zone over to the arena and go at it.

Or use the /duel command.

No need for open world PvP.

[Meiva]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PvP exists on Green, Teal and Blue. Just go to any starting city arena and go at it. Or go to Lake Rathetear and zone over to the arena and go at it.

Or use the /duel command.

No need for open world PvP.

You miss the point.

If I want something you have, I can just take it from you. I can't do that with /duel, arenas or irl.

[Danth]

EQ raiding is and always has been a case of, "How hard can we 'sploit and not get punished for?" Been that way since the start. Anyone claiming otherwise is either woefully ignorant or outright delusional. That's par for the course in any open-ended game and could be regarded as equivalent to the widespread pushing the rules that takes place in many other areas of competition (notoriously in auto racing, as an example).

In other words, it's fair game until the admins say it isn't. Nice job on a Nagafen kill with an undergeared low-level scratch force.

Danth

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ raiding is and always has been a case of, "How hard can we 'sploit and not get punished for?" Been that way since the start. Anyone claiming otherwise is either woefully ignorant or outright delusional. That's par for the course in any open-ended game and could be regarded as equivalent to the widespread pushing the rules that takes place in many other areas of competition (notoriously in auto racing, as an example).

In other words, it's fair game until the admins say it isn't. Nice job on a Nagafen kill with an undergeared low-level scratch force.

Danth

I'd say this applies to just about every MMO, ever, to be honest. It's just far more punishingly significant in a purely-sandbox MMO like EverQuest, wherein one guild's gain is effectively all other guild's losses.

Thankfully the "elite guilds" on the P99 servers are far less selective than they were on Live. Essentially any player level 60 can apply (and likely get accepted) to any "top tier guild" on Blue. This may be different on Green/Teal though, as the populations are significantly higher.

I expect (based on their low population counts) that Tanks and Monks/Rogues will be in very high demand a month or two from now as the planes begin to open up and additional guilds look to begin raiding. Then we have a FULL YEAR until Kunark releases which will, apparently, be more than sufficient for these guilds to powerlevel all the Warriors/Monks/Rogues/Clerics they will need for Kunark raiding.

[Nirgon]

pulling him to an easier spot to wall dodge makes him harder

grats on killing this the p99 way, saw u got a nice COF