What is the most powerful mob that is soloable?

[kjs86z]

Originally Posted by Kinaki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most people don't bother to film themselves playing a 20 year old game. Also, imo, the more gratifying accomplishments are those involving teamwork: a duo Ixi, a 3-person Hate breakin, a 2-group VP dragon.

Cool, glad you shared such relevant input.

[Endonde]

Originally Posted by kjs86z [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think Kelz's solo fungi king is probably the most impressive. It has it all. Insane consumable / clicky prep, strategy, execution.

https://youtu.be/dwH5myJ6CIk

Show me a better solo kill video than that.

Kelza was a really good monk, but nothing in that video is that amazing.

[Wallicker]

We need a classic solo artist challenge! Make it for each class and solo should be self buffs only no clickies.

[Tecmos Deception]

Lor, the categories were perfectly sufficient for anyone who wanted to do the challenge or who enjoyed readingnabout it. You think "strong clicky" is vague but that there's no difference between using a disease cure pot and 10x stinging worts? Your attempt at categories is no better than before.

The only people who complain about anything in the sac are people who weren't doing it, couldn't understand how anyone would have fun with it, mocked people who enjoyed doing it or reading about it, etc. That's all pretty apparent for someone who followed it, or even just this thread.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lor, the categories were perfectly sufficient for anyone who wanted to do the challenge or who enjoyed readingnabout it. You think "strong clicky" is vague but that there's no difference between using a disease cure pot and 10x stinging worts? Your attempt at categories is no better than before.

The only people who complain about anything in the sac are people who weren't doing it, couldn't understand how anyone would have fun with it, mocked people who enjoyed doing it or reading about it, etc. That's all pretty apparent for someone who followed it, or even just this thread.

Great: your words make sense to you in your brain. But again, I wasn't talking about making things make sense to Tecmos, it was about making it clear to everyone in the forum what a person means when they say "I soloed ___".

Again, I NEVER said "my list is better than Tecmos's!" Seriously, show me the quote if I did, but I don't think I ever did (I have too much respect for you to do that). All I did was propose a simple list (clearly inspired by your's) to start a conversation, and you're acting like I stabbed you in the back or something.

If everyone agrees that Wort potions don't matter to soloing, great! If the community says "it makes sense to mention puppet strings, but not wort potions", GREAT! I will 100% support that and use whatever term we want to use for "I soloed ____ using wort potions but not puppet strings".

But I reject the idea that any player just gets to arbitrarily decide the rules of (as I keep repeating) A LARGELY PERSONAL CHALLENGE. I don't think anyone should tell someone else how to play a game, or even just how to talk about it. Let's let the community decide that last part.

I really don't think it should be about anyone "gatekeeping" or "judging" anyone else. I just would prefer less forum arguments resulting from person A and person B having different definitions of "soloing", and I could care less how we improve communication, as long as it's something everyone can agree on.

I don't think your categories are bad or wrong, and I wasn't in any way trying to ignore them and replace them with mine (although I do think they're not 100% clear). At the very least "strong clickies" needs definition, but more importantly I just don't think "repeat Tecmo's asterisks and plus symbols in forum posts and everyone will just magically know what they mean and think those categories are perfect" is the right solution.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't think "repeat Tecmo's asterisks and plus symbols in forum posts and everyone will just magically know what they mean and think those categories are perfect" is the right solution.

You really are talking about something you don't know squat about, aren't you?

I didn't make the sac. A straw man about symbols and "magically" knowing what they mean when what they mean is defined for anyone with any interest in knowing? Lol. Wtf?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You really are talking about something you don't know squat about, aren't you?

I didn't make the sac. A straw man about symbols and "magically" knowing what they mean when what they mean is defined for anyone with any interest in knowing? Lol. Wtf?

You're not even reading what I wrote: it doesn't matter who started it, or who wrote what.

Stop trying to argue with me just because you're butt-hurt over something I never said! Instead, answer this question: do you sincerely think that if everyone here in the forum just said "I soloed ___+" that it would solve all misunderstanding, disagreement, and argument between people who have different ideas of what soloing means?

[Endonde]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You really are talking about something you don't know squat about, aren't you?

If you had to choose one sentence to describe Loramin, this would be it.

[enjchanter]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only people who complain about anything in the sac are people who weren't doing it, couldn't understand how anyone would have fun with it, mocked people who enjoyed doing it or reading about it, etc. That's all pretty apparent for someone who followed it, or even just this thread.

Pretty much that ^^

Bottom line is that if you did something that was challenging to you and you are proud of the fact that you did it then that has to be good enough for you. If I've learned anything from doing that challenge is that basically no one thinks anything you do is impressive and will almost always poke holes in how you did it so that its less of an accomplishment.

The first time i solo'd emporer chottal, i used 2 wort clicks so i could survive pyrocuror and not die to the dot. I was so excited but made the mistake of mentioning that i used some wort clicks and suddenly "oh well anyone could do it if you give em a wort pot, pffffftttt"

If you see that challenge and fill out that sheet, youre doing something right and just like Tecmos said, the people who knock anything about that are probably the ones who are mad/bad/sad.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i used 2 wort clicks so i could survive pyrocuror and not die to the dot. I was so excited but made the mistake of mentioning that i used some wort clicks and suddenly "oh well anyone could do it if you give em a wort pot, pffffftttt"

Lol, yeah, exactly this.

Those people even try to discredit by assocation too. "Oh you [did any random thing genuinely solo without help or clickies or anything] huh? Yeah well, but I read about how someone else in the SAC a year before you even made your character, who isn't even the same class or fighting the same mob, used puppet strings and soulfire one time... so clearly you're just a bad circlejerking because you SAC people have expensive unclassic broken OP clickies to carry you to automatic greatness just like I could if I had those clickies but I'm too cool to bother spending the time and effort on it"