p99 has the worst raid scene of any game i have ever played and im quitting over it

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by seananetsberger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was so word of the tracker fte. No one knew it happened. He logged in. Fte’d, died instantly. Then a legit fte bard landed at wizard ring after tracker fte was dead. Ran up and got a legit fte. No one called for tracker fte DQ. no one said anything. No one knew it happened. We all believed it was a real fte and we killed it excited.

It wasn’t until 6 hours later when ALS heard it dropped 2 scales that they began to attempt extortion with guild leads from BG for 1 scale or face full item deletion

ALS did not deserve the items any more than bg.
Also, isn’t extortion and lawyer quest against the ALS charter for loot? Aren’t you supposed to kill all your loots yourself??


They never got an fte. We never hindered them from getting fte. It just as easily could of been any other guild to kill it.

I was present for the kill. I got there fast on my druid and was in zone sometime after the first FTE/death but before the legit FTE. There were not enough total in the zone to drop Sev when I landed. The majority of BG mobilized in after the false FTE but we’re present when the mob hit camp. I can’t speak for everyone but I was 100% unaware of this first FTE. It was hours later before I found out.

Serious question here. If a tracker gets FTE and then dies (intentionally or otherwise) only for a legitimate FTE to happen later, how is it illegal again? For the time between initial and legitimate FTE Sev was open game for any pull. I understand the purpose of the rule but the spirit of the rule is to stop a guild from engaging and lazily pulling the mob when adequate force isn’t immediately present and to stop people from sniping competition with cheap tactics.

That isn’t what happened here. The actual FTE and pull was legitimate. I understand that no trackers are allowed to pull or participate without zoning out first but the Druid in question didn’t pull the mob. He logged in and died. Prior to the legitimate tag/pull, Sev was fair game. I don’t know if his intent was to engage, so I won’t comment. All I know is a quake hit and within minutes we were killing Sev. My hope is it was accidental and that’s just where he’d logged out his raid-ready character.

If it was accidental and the tracker bit the bullet and died leaving an open mob uncontested and ready for a fresh FTE, is said guild expected to just concede even though no other guild was present in Force? Remember this all happened after an unscheduled quake so the rules of not being present in zone at time of pop (ie fear golems) doesn’t apply.

Regardless rules are rules. If they were broken the rules need to be upheld. The penalty was quite heavy handed. Similar infractions on other guilds in the past usually stop at concessions. My take is that a competing guild (who did not have adequate force present to kill) just went for blood when they found out we got 2 green scales.

I suspect one of those green scales had my name on it, but. I’m not salty about it. Pixels are pixels. More will come with time. I’m more concerned with keeping my nose clean. From the sound of it, the actual pull was clean. At the time of the legitimate pull I don’t recall any other group having a sufficient force ready to go. The first FTE went nowhere, dude just logged in and died.

C’est la vie ... just sucks to see 2 rare scales get deleted.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Serious question here. If a tracker gets FTE and then dies (intentionally or otherwise) only for a legitimate FTE to happen later, how is it illegal again?

Because that initial FTE, for however long it stood (call it X) denied another raiding entity of getting an FTE for X time.

[PieOats]

Originally Posted by Grimmskld [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm going to come in here and defend our OP, as well as our guild. I usually stay out of RnF, but I sympathize with Folgorth.

The druid in question didn't understand the infraction and thought he was doing a good thing for his guildmates! At the time, we didnt realize he was camped out past the ZL, or else we would have called a concede right away, thus avoiding any issues with other guilds.

And in reference to the Druid Fear tracker comment, we absolutely do NOT use our fear trackers to gain FTE! That whole ordeal happened once, and both druids were getting agro while trying to get out of the zone. Our guild isn't shady and always press to our members to abide by each and every server rule, 100%!

*pelts with fresh crushed garlic and pretzel crucifixes*

[Kazik]

Originally Posted by Grimmskld [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The druid in question didn't understand the infraction and thought he was doing a good thing for his guildmates! At the time, we didnt realize he was camped out past the ZL,

Ignorance isn't a defense.

Originally Posted by Grimmskld [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And in reference to the Druid Fear tracker comment, we absolutely do NOT use our fear trackers to gain FTE! That whole ordeal happened once!

How do these two sentences make sense to you?

[Bardp1999]

Originally Posted by Grimmskld [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The druid in question didn't understand the infraction and thought he was doing a good thing for his guildmates! At the time, we didnt realize he was camped out past the ZL, or else we would have called a concede right away, thus avoiding any issues with other guilds!

I have never seen BG concede a single mob even when you guys fuck up bad, and OP has been on the server for almost a decade. QQ FGT

[Zoggren]

Originally Posted by Bardp1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have never seen BG concede a single mob even when you guys fuck up bad, and OP has been on the server for almost a decade. QQ FGT

Do we really need a stupid and bigoted term like fgt to get your point across? Isn't that type of language forbidden on this forum? Moderators have anything to say? I was enjoying this thread until this.

[Fifield]

Originally Posted by Zoggren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do we really need a stupid and bigoted term like fgt to get your point across?

yes

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Zoggren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do we really need a stupid and bigoted term like fgt to get your point across? Isn't that type of language forbidden on this forum? Moderators have anything to say? I was enjoying this thread until this.

Why is calling someone a set of Fire Giant Toes so bad? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[bigjeff100]

Originally Posted by Folgorth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, ya. after losing out on 10 previous green scales from sev over the years, this last one is the last one. BG killed sev during an earthquake, and because the GMs dont like how the pull was made or some such garbage, they DELETED the 2 green scales he dropped. not transferred, deleted. AND they made BG concede the next 2 sev kills. I've been a proud supporter of p99 since the beginning, and have been around through it all with you from classic till now. it pains me to leave after almost a decade on server, but this sort of thing has been happening for years with GMs trying to meddle in how guilds conduct raids. I hope Llandris in particular reads my message and I hope it can change, but for now ,i'm going to nasomi ff11 or something now. Goodbye P99.

this in no way represents the position of BG or its leadership, I make this post of my own accord. thanks for a good time in game BG

Don't be so invested in the game man.. It's just a game.. Take a break. Play another game for a bit. Make a new character. Find some sort of joy in this game other than some hard to get item (which lets be honest, nothin in this game is hard, it just takes time).. P99 exists for nostalgia. Collect items, make friends, and enjoy the journey.. With this attitude, you're going to run into the same problem with every game you play that's not a campaign story.

Work on changing yourself, not the game. Pains me to see people reach this point...

[Erati]

So a druid will egress to get near Sev spawn point regardless where theyre at in EJ whether that be at the zone in or somewhere else...the end result of Egress will be the same...Im not seeing why it matters where the druid was parked if they logged into EJ and Egressed. (unless it was literally at the spawn point)