Drusella Player Agreement?

[Peener]

The general guideline that makes DS a camp is the fact that it's in a room with 7 other spawns, doesn't have a 100% drop rate on her loot, no turn in is required. From all major indicators of this mob/camp nothing about it even hints that it's even intended to be a raid mob. Its got a fixed spawn duration, no yellow text, not in a raid zone, can be solo'd, duo'd, grouped. . . Only reason the push for FTE rules is to fast track peoples way to an 100HP item without having to camp it.

I very much disagree with this bully tactic to change this rule set to suit people with better connections who use autofire. I speak as someone who doesnt have the type of connection that would allow me to ever win they type of camp, nor do i resort to that type of game play to win. If they move DS to a raid zone, give her yellow text and add a window, sure, lets fte rule it, but you cant be past zone line when she spawns or your DQ'd. Since that isnt happening, a camp she shall remain.

No one's claiming DS is a raid mob. I'm simply asking how she differs from Verina Tomb or Vessel Drozlin for the enchanter epic. Both of these mobs have their own windows and no placeholders, and both are FTE.

Why is DS treated differently? Is it just the variance?

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should be FTE like other things that spawn on their own.

Lucan spawns on his own. No ph. Yet hes a camp and you need to clear his room to have any claim to it. Drusella is the same way. (Or should be if isnt currently)

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Magerin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The general guideline that makes DS a camp is the fact that it's in a room with 7 other spawns, doesn't have a 100% drop rate on her loot, no turn in is required. From all major indicators of this mob/camp nothing about it even hints that it's even intended to be a raid mob. Its got a fixed spawn duration, no yellow text, not in a raid zone, can be solo'd, duo'd, grouped. . . Only reason the push for FTE rules is to fast track peoples way to an 100HP item without having to camp it.

I very much disagree with this bully tactic to change this rule set to suit people with better connections who use autofire. I speak as someone who doesnt have the type of connection that would allow me to ever win they type of camp, nor do i resort to that type of game play to win. If they move DS to a raid zone, give her yellow text and add a window, sure, lets fte rule it, but you cant be past zone line when she spawns or your DQ'd. Since that isnt happening, a camp she shall remain.

Lol if a couple posts that raise a discussion considered bullying...

Back to DS, the 7 mobs in room, no turn in or the drop rate have nothing to do w defining her as a camp. Sure that makes life easier on those doing the quest who have to kill her likely multiple times to get the quest drop but how is that different than other quests on p99 that you try and try again at. See Scout and Ring roll, two other long duration spawn npcs that people basically only get 1 shot at per day. Theres nothing to clear for those but no one can “camp” Scout or Gloridain.

Stop confusing FTE and yellow text w meaning its a raid mob of some sorts. Stormfeather had yellow text at one point, a lvl 30 ish mob. You can have FTE rules be present with a plethora of situations not involving raid mobs and guess what not all these situations shouldnt be turned into “camps” either just bc theres no raid requirement attached.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lucan spawns on his own. No ph. Yet hes a camp and you need to clear his room to have any claim to it. Drusella is the same way. (Or should be if isnt currently)

Another dumb “camp” that shouldnt be and wasnt always considered a camp right here on p99.

Bad example.

DS used to never be a camp in Kunark like ever, you show up and out maneuver the enchanters trying to solo it. If they engage it first, grats.

[Bbeta]

I vote for list. haha

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another dumb “camp” that shouldnt be and wasnt always considered a camp right here on p99.

Bad example.

DS used to never be a camp in Kunark like ever, you show up and out maneuver the enchanters trying to solo it. If they engage it first, grats.

So you’re trying to tell me the mob with the closest mechanics to DS in the entire game is a bad example? Sorry guy...

But i think the gms will disagree with ya

[aaezil]

Also what you remember from live or how it “used to be” here is completel irrelevant - all that matters is how things work now (i remember the avg level being 40 in velious era and its 60 here. I remember camp rules being whoever got xp got loot rights even for raid mobs. I remember no clickies. I remember nobody knowing about recharging. Doesnt mean thats the way its ever gonna be here.)

[Peener]

Lucan spawns on his own. No ph. Yet hes a camp and you need to clear his room to have any claim to it. Drusella is the same way. (Or should be if isnt currently)

This was helpful. Thank you.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you’re trying to tell me the mob with the closest mechanics to DS in the entire game is a bad example? Sorry guy...

But i think the gms will disagree with ya

So you are ignoring other posters replies comparing DS to Verina but since DS and Lucan are both senselessly called camps that means you re correct.

Got it.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Peener [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This was helpful. Thank you.

Lucan wasnt always a camp on P99 neither was DS. Someone arbitrarily declared Lucan as a camp one day despite nothing about it resembling an Everquest camp besides the simple “waiting” part.