Game of Thrones

[AenorVZ]

As Preston Jacobs points out, GRRM has said the endings will be essentially the same, but he's the most unreliable narrator of all.

[Thorondor]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I certainly care little for the women who live vicariously through shitty mary sue trash characters -- and their eunuch enablers.

Criticize one crappily scripted character played by a female, and you're attacking all of womankind.

As a woman, Feniin would be the resident expert on imaginary characters played by females.

[Yasi]

Overall, it was a good episode, but I am afraid GoT is losing a bit of what made it a great series initially:

 

GoT has always been able to kill protagonists.
Playing an important role with a big share of screen time didn't protect you from dying.

As stated somewhere above, several key People were fighting an overwhelming force of undead for several hours, just to barely survive - a miracle! Even the fat kid survived after spending the entire episode buried and crying under a pile of zombies.

The ones who died even got their heroic death. Little girl died just after killing an undead hill giant; Dany's step grandfather protected Dany for as long as necessary before his death; Theon protected Bran; Even Melisandre had her decisive moment in telling Arya to go for the NK.

Death of NK then pretty much came out of nowhere, although I liked the little wind/hair scene. Before that, I was hoping Bran would turn into something powerful and kill NK himself. Perhaps hiding a shard below his skirt over the last 25 episodes while faking his paralysis.

Going a bit too much Disney for my taste. But perhaps they manage to return to the good old GoT magic in the next episodes. Too early too judge now.

Btw, I loved that everyone kept ignoring the misogynist's rants in this thread for most of the time. Keep going.

[Llandris]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jon should have 1v1'd the Night King and drove his Valyrian Steel sword into his chest to end it.

I wanted this to happen so bad

[azeth]

Finally caught episode 3... solid 0/10.

1. Arya has trouble sneaking past 10 brain dead Wights in the library... but somehow manages to sneak past the Night King's praetorian guard no problem.

2. I thought just for a second Bran's 3 eyed raven arc would come to a close, or at least have an impact... and it didn't.

3. Dany and Jon's army size was so small that I am certain not a single writer on the show has any knowledge of actual military history.

4. The Undead were standing still when the trench was lit on fire... remind me why the archers weren't peppering them with arrows?

5. Winterfell apparently comes equipped with absolutely zero counter measures against invaders scaling its walls.

6. How the fuck did the courtyard of Winterfell fit all of the soldiers who retreated?

7. A grand total of 6 trebuchet shots were fired at the undead, again why didn't the writers read a goddamn book or two before attempting to narrate a battle. Try 900 trebuchet shots for a more realistic number.

8. It made sense that the winter weather poured in when the Night King arrived, but did we really need to see Dany and Jon riding aimlessly in zero visibility for 25 minutes?

9. Jon Snow played ZERO ROLE in the entire battle. Why was he on the dragon in the first place? He should have been on the ground commanding his army.

10. Why suddenly was the Hound portrayed as an absolute quitter/coward?

I could go on, but holy shit this show sucked.

EDIT:

Also, related - this is the most embarrassing fucking thing I've read in a long time: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/29/opini...tby/index.html

[loramin]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/29/opini...tby/index.html

Great article, thanks for the link (and sorry you fear women so much you feel attacked by the article's completely valid point).

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

solid 0/10.

I wouldn't go that far, but yeah that episode was pretty bad. Bad just as an episode, and terrible as the culmination of years of story building. It had its moments of fun of course, but the suspension of disbelief required to enjoy it was nuts.

Like you said, there was so much unnecessary stuff (at least half the dragon scenes), but then also so much necessary stuff missing (eg. how do tons of characters go from a noisy pitched battle to silently sneaking around? how does Arya go from trapped to doing her big finale?)

Just bad craftsmanship on the part of the people making the show; they got so caught up with the CGI dragons and hordes of undead they failed at basic storytelling.

As one reviewer put it:

How did we get to a place where Arya’s assassination of the Night King felt like an intellectual letdown, where a big episode of “Game of Thrones” felt like badly shot and edited fan service rather than a genuine revelation?

[DMN]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Great article, thanks for the link (and sorry you fear women so much you feel attacked by the article's completely valid point).

The article didn't have a valid point. The moron writer even mentions melisandre but apparently because no one told her "you are a good person" then there was no redemption. Wow, so you need to have a MAN tell you that you are a "good person"? It's trash tier feminazi garbage. But you being a collegiate bootlicker im sure it's ambrosia for your stunted, pathetic soul.

[Wonkie]

melisandre did more than theon. her problem is a lack of dialogue acknowledging it. it's plainly obvious anyway.

[Mewse]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Great article, thanks for the link (and sorry you fear women so much you feel attacked by the article's completely valid point).

You're better than that. Thinking the article is hot garbage is in no way fear of women.

Terrible things happen to both women and men in the show. But as much as she mentions rape and the #metoo movement, she conveniently leaves out that Gendry was sexually assaulted and raped by Melisandre. And nobody even gave a shit. Nobody cared. Contrast that to how people reacted to Sansa. And her point about Theon didn't make sense either, because she didn't understand the scene and the fact that Theon was a stand-in for the audience, not that the scene was about Theon.

Or perhaps we could talk about the jokes made at the expense of the eunuchs of the show, like Varys, Theon, and the Unsullied. Can you even imagine the uproar if female genital mutilation was used as joke fodder? They'd burn the studio down.

The whole article just came across as agenda-pushing.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

melisandre did more than theon. her problem is a lack of dialogue acknowledging it. it's plainly obvious anyway.

Did't you see the scene with Varys? She's already made her case for redemption to him. She brought "Ice and fire" together to confront the white walkers. And she knows for sure she's going to die if h she returns to aid them, but she's going to do it anyway. Hence, she knows she's sacrificing herself for what she believes is the greater good. This is of course a callback to sacrificing shireen for the greater good. And, personally, I think varys silence says far more than a throw away line from bran.