AFK Leveling = Banned. New Unspoken rules Via Guide Drommund. Proof inside.

[Salty]

Bunch of qq, find more clever ways to sploit, scrubs.

[Virtuosos]

if you want to AFK level, go please the EZ mode server because you're already trying your hardest to do easy-mode on a non-easymode server...


and this IS NOT classic...this is an EMU server TRYING TO ACT like classic....rules will not be the same as in classic because... well shit if i have to explain that then you're beyond hope anyways....

the people who own and operate this server can make whatever damn rule they want, it is up to them to enforce it. I am for one would like to get a definate reply about it either against rules and thus making it bannable or not against rules, just frowned upon..that way we dont get stupid shits making post like this again

[nilbog]

The rules weren't spelled out if a: you afk, b: you're banned because there have been times when people pass out drunk.. and their pets defend them. People afk, they return to discover they never went offline. Or.. any number of things. Both of these particular situations have happened to me.

I didn't want to enforce bans for something like this. I figured "frowned upon" would be enough for someone to assume they shouldn't do it, and not get banned for a mistake. So much for good will.

I never thought it would be brought to the forums, with screenshots, for nothing other than to be loud and ask for a clarified rule if they should be banned for something that is defined as "FROWNED UPON". First thing I did was look up at my Private Messages.. I see none. I look in the petition thread, I see no posts by you. If your only defense is a screenshot where the very first line reads "This is your final warning", that doesn't sound good for your case.

Players answer to guides, guides answer to GMs, and GMs answer to project administrators. From the evidence presented, it looks like you went out of your way to cause a scene.. for nothing other than to get another rule needlessly enforced. By not complying with the guide's wishes, you're a rebel, sir.

As there hasn't been HUGE fucking drama about this before, the only new rule I'll make tonight is:

Wooly, if you're caught in the rocks with a pet up and AFK again, you will banned for 7 days.

From non compliance with the staff, you brought these paragraphs upon yourself. In the future if someone feels a guide has wronged them, make a formal petition in the petition area of the forums. You will receive a fair hearing. GMs will defend guides, and I will defend GMs.. so, if there's a player VS. guide dispute, don't bring it to the public forums? It's none of these other people's business.

Sorry, I know you guys love the drama, but this was an unnecessary 8 pages of it. "Frowned upon." Give it one last chance. Think about it. We can work on making pets eat your exp or a variety of other nasty things, but why lose a safeguard you have. If you need to emergency afk, I'm sure you'll love coming back to find your pet killed a mob and you were banned.

Listen to the staff.

Complain upwards, not laterally.

[Brut]

Not really sure, here. If someone wants to play the game only to have the number 50 read to the left of their name on /who, fine. Your loss, there's a whole danged in-game world out there.

Although I do admit I have been searching a while for the owners of those orphan mage pets at Travis Two Tone, so I could hand them some mummies or something.

[wooly]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The rules weren't spelled out if a: you afk, b: you're banned because there have been times when people pass out drunk.. and their pets defend them. People afk, they return to discover they never went offline. Or.. any number of things. Both of these particular situations have happened to me.

I didn't want to enforce bans for something like this. I figured "frowned upon" would be enough for someone to assume they shouldn't do it, and not get banned for a mistake. So much for good will.

I never thought it would be brought to the forums, with screenshots, for nothing other than to be loud and ask for a clarified rule if they should be banned for something that is defined as "FROWNED UPON". First thing I did was look up at my Private Messages.. I see none. I look in the petition thread, I see no posts by you. If your only defense is a screenshot where the very first line reads "This is your final warning", that doesn't sound good for your case.

Players answer to guides, guides answer to GMs, and GMs answer to project administrators. From the evidence presented, it looks like you went out of your way to cause a scene.. for nothing other than to get another rule needlessly enforced. By not complying with the guide's wishes, you're a rebel, sir.

As there hasn't been HUGE fucking drama about this before, the only new rule I'll make tonight is:

Wooly, if you're caught in the rocks with a pet up and AFK again, you will banned for 7 days.

From non compliance with the staff, you brought these paragraphs upon yourself. In the future if someone feels a guide has wronged them, make a formal petition in the petition area of the forums. You will receive a fair hearing. GMs will defend guides, and I will defend GMs.. so, if there's a player VS. guide dispute, don't bring it to the public forums? It's none of these other people's business.

Sorry, I know you guys love the drama, but this was an unnecessary 8 pages of it. "Frowned upon." Give it one last chance. Think about it. We can work on making pets eat your exp or a variety of other nasty things, but why lose a safeguard you have. If you need to emergency afk, I'm sure you'll love coming back to find your pet killed a mob and you were banned.

Listen to the staff.

Complain upwards, not laterally.

This thread was never meant to be a defense for myself. I did it because it was only frowned upon. I'm a businessman, i'll do whatever is within the rules to succeed. Unethical doesn't always mean illegal. Since you're specifically telling me it's illegal for me, I will stop.

If you read the screenshots, you'll notice your newly two day minted guide is not very well spoken. He said this is your final warning. Fact of the matter is, it was my only warning. I haven't received any prior warnings. One is all I needed though. All I did was ask for clarification and the response I got was "because I can". If you're telling me to accept this and to drop it I will. Just know this is a horrible practice.

Also, if you read the screenshots I complied with every wish of the Guide. I ceased when he asked me too. I brought it to the forums, which he suggested. Was this wrong of me to do even though he told me to bring it to the forums? You're telling me it's wrong.

I asked for clarification of the rules. That was the real intention of this thread. Notice how the only rule you implemented was specfically for me? Does that mean it's a bannable offense if anyone else does it? According to Drommund, it is. According to your post it is not. Either way, I will not do it. The rules should be more clear and concise though.

So which is it?

Thanks in advance.

[Finawin]

Glad to see another exploit taken care of. ^_^

[Qi0]

I checked more thoroughly and the 75% thing was implemented halfway through Luclin as an effort to actually buff mage soloing efficiency (while still not letting them AFK level). The 50%/50% thing seems to have been in place from either the beginning or very early.

It's pretty ridiculous that mages have been able to level with their pets doing 100% of the damage for this long, though. It makes nerfing such a thing at this point kind of weird. Technically it's less of a blow to AFK leveling to change it to 50/50, yet more of a blow to solo mages who are actually at their computer the entire time. I wonder how this works in a duo group of pet classes, too. Can you just sick both pets on a mob, heal whichever takes damage, and move on? It seems like you can.

The server consensus seems to be that anything that increases grouping potential is a good thing. I definitely agree with that philosophy, so any change will be welcome.

[Ghesta]

Oh for the love of god shut up.

You're in the wrong and you know you're in the wrong. Just take your licks and go back to the game.

One of the things that makes this server, and original EQ great, is the community. It's a MMO unlike WoW where most classes from level 10 or lower should have to group and get to know others to level. By the time you're level 50 you should have a guild of friends who know you, your play style, your skill. You should have friends you're not guilded with that you can call on when you need a tank, a healer, a port, a DS, or even just a hit of some crack.

Everquest, original everquest, is more about the community and personalities than any one camp, spawn, loot, or raid. If you're AFK leveling, you're not a part of that community. So why even bother playing here?

In short, quit whining, the community, gms, guides, and developers have all spoken. Join us or GTFO.

[Shankz]

By Nidnogs post i gathered that afk lvling is frowned on but you wont be banned unless you abuse it.

Ult Tabbing while your pet kills crap is acceptable, Staying in a area for days at a time while AFK letting your pet kill stuff is not. They are asking you not to abuse the leniency of AFK lvling, so that people may have a buffer zone like he explained incase of emergencies, falling asleep while playing (it is evercrack after all) or multi managing work/cooking/actions and EQ which you know we all do.

All in all, please dont be a jerk off and make the guides/GMs seem like dicks because you cannot take no for an answer.

[clacbec]

i think it s ok to let the pet class the chance to afk leveling up to 8-10, so it s a fair way to let people make reasonable cash to equip the main SK or whataver other class you hesitated to start with 0 survavility.

Note i m 10 wiz.

and btw, this is classic(c) !! no ?!


Clac