40 day raid ban - Page 8

mattydef · #1 04-09-2018, 05:09 PM

Half of the raid bans are from stalling and breaking raid agreements, those are 100% avoidable, lol. Trains get a little trickier though because it's harder to tell whether it was an accident or not. The players are the ones that choose to pull tov mobs to the entrance though and by doing so take a risk of training people and eating bans. Unfortunately the people on this server are so pixel crazed that they constantly come up with the most effective way to get mobs as fast as possible in order to beat the competition. So instead of raiding tov the way it was supposed to be done, they use the train tactic, which makes killing mobs much faster and convenient but also much easier to break a rule. So yes, there are ways to easily avoid breaking rules, but it would require everyone to change how they've been doing these encounters.

loramin · #2 04-09-2018, 05:55 PM

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So yes, there are ways to easily avoid breaking rules, but it would require everyone to change how they've been doing these encounters.

And this is exactly why I think the staff has instituted the increasing-length suspension policy.

So many people on this thread seem to think the staff wants to give out suspensions, when the evidence is the exact opposite. Everything the staff has ever said on the topic has been that raid drama is one of their least favorite things to deal with. Rather than wanting to rules lawyer guilds into suspension, what the staff actually wants is for the players to play by the rules. It's that simple.

Unless the staff starts pulling back on enforcement (which I don't see happening), it really seems like guilds will have to change their tactics. Let's say Awakened doesn't change after this suspension: pretty soon they'll have a 2 month suspension next, and a 2.5 one after that. Somewhere along the way they're going to decide "hey, racing for this one mob this one specific way, even if it's the way both A/A guilds currently do it, isn't worth it, because being suspended for months at a time sucks." And other guilds will do the same.

Ravager · #3 04-09-2018, 05:11 PM

At any rate, it's good to see the days of a 5 day bans between windows is gone.

Man0warr · #4 04-09-2018, 05:22 PM

Hard to play by the rules when the rules are arbitrary and nebulous, and the staff holds grudges.

skarlorn · #5 04-09-2018, 05:26 PM

it is no small feat of Cosmic Humor that A/A and AA are so similar in population

beastmode83 · #6 04-09-2018, 05:30 PM

A 40 day for something that happened before our last 30 day... So frustrating.. I would put money that their is something already in the works to suspend us again no matter how much we just want to play by the "rules".

Maner · #7 04-09-2018, 08:42 PM

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A 40 day for something that happened before our last 30 day... So frustrating.. I would put money that their is something already in the works to suspend us again no matter how much we just want to play by the "rules".

You must be new here. You know how charges work when you're arrested? When you are sentenced for multiple crimes you don't just spend time in jail for the biggest offense, everything is added together. You're bitching about the staff when in reality you should be bitching about your leadership whose choices put you in this situation.

beastmode83 · #8 04-09-2018, 09:34 PM

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You must be new here. You know how charges work when you're arrested? When you are sentenced for multiple crimes you don't just spend time in jail for the biggest offense, everything is added together. You're bitching about the staff when in reality you should be bitching about your leadership whose choices put you in this situation.

So glad I dont live in this forum you are correct. Forum ban would probably be worse for some of you. I still have a right to give a /sigh though right?

Dithien · #9 04-09-2018, 06:10 PM

If there isn't any more competition, the other guild won't have to change.

Sonderbeast · #10 04-09-2018, 06:25 PM

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If there isn't any more competition, the other guild won't have to change.

Every 6 months or so there will be a period between 1 week to a month where there will be competition, then someone is banned again. Smrt ppl realize that's not a gud. Smrt pepl shood chenge.

Then again if top end guilds started treating each other with respect, followed the rules, and maintained a healthy raid scene I might be inclined to join. Prolly best to just leave things as they are.