My Theory About Why Feminism is Currently Irrelevent to Millenials

[loramin]

Genuine question Mick: what are your values? Somewhere in your brain there's a thought process "I should defend the guy who whips his dick out unwantedly in front of co-workers" ... even though I'm guessing you don't whip your dick out inappropriately in front of people, and I'm guessing that if your mom or sister told you a story about a guy at their work even asking "can I pull my dick out" you'd be upset.

So what's so important in your values system that you personally find it so important to defend a dude whipping his dick out?

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The victims are to blame here. (IMPORTANT NOTE: THEY WERE NOT VICTIMS)

You simply cannot blame LCK for using his attractive qualities, his success, to cloud the fact that he is a fat bald guy, to look attractive to the opposite sex.

Honestly Mick, who do you think these women are? Like you genuinely believe they were attracted to LCK, wanted him to pull his dick out (even though they clearly didn't want to have sex with him because ... they didn't, despite his obvious interest), and then collectively many years later all just decided to get upset over something they were previously ok with? Really?

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

False. How many of these issues have you heard about with women as the antagonists?

This is called specious reasoning. It is also VERY not feminist of you to say that. Feminism is about equality, and equality is about solving both men and womens issues.

1. men do not report sexual harrasment for a multitude of reasons, one of which being men are as oppressed as woman are in today's society, especially when sharing this type of info.
2. men are constantly at the butt of the assault because of the social narrative being exactly that, a narrative.
3. men commit suicide at a drastically higher rate because of pressure at the work place.
4. that is because of the same type of social stigma that people say women are the only victim of, victim blaming etc.
5. men have it just as hard as women, but that social stigma, the bullshit you're spinning right here, is the real problem.

Incel's are people and they are trampled on all the fucking time, just ask skarlorn.

men have it just as bad as women, its just right now its popular to complain in favor of women or because you're a women.

This is earth dude, its a tough life. Men eat the bullet and do the work. Women and children (adult babies aka libcucks) cry about it. That's why you THINK that men are never the victim and that women are under some sort of attack.

You're just being fooled man. Manipulated, fooled and played.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly Mick, who do you think these women are? Like you genuinely believe they were attracted to LCK, wanted him to pull his dick out (even though they clearly didn't want to have sex with him because ... they didn't, despite his obvious interest), and then collectively many years later all just decided to get upset over something they were previously ok with? Really?

all 5 of the women were failed comedians that were not able to make it in the industry because they were not funny and absolutly if you know anything about comedians, they have groopies just like musicians have.

You seriously think a groopie is going to have rational behavior? You know what type of behavior a groopie is going to have? they likely to be a fembott, they are likely to try to get attention, they are likely going to seek revenge.

[JurisDictum]

What I think is going on here is that those women didn't make it, know they are not going to (unless maybe they get a hit of fame off this), and are mad about compromising themselves.

That's ok from my perspective. Them being mad about it. But their anger is misplaced in men and their sexuality. Mick points out -- this is what men do. They try to impress women and get them to consent to sex with them. That's all he did.

So whats the real problem here?

The problem is those women felt like they had to engage in sexual activity with him to gain economic security. Those women feel this way because of how our economy works. It's who you know and there is no generous welfare state waiting for you if you fuck up.

The other problem is that these women blame the god damn patriarchy instead of the economy. Feminists have a big drum circle about how of rich men exploit women (poor/middle women, not rich women) -- and guys get pissed off that LCK was just trying to get laid and women are pissed at him for it.

And so, current internet feminism proves not only irrelevant here -- but destructive to the socialist cause. Divide and conquer. Republicans on one side, Democrats on the other.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Genuine question Mick: what are your values? Somewhere in your brain there's a thought process "I should defend the guy who whips his dick out unwantedly in front of co-workers"

Ill answer your genuine questions:

No, I am not defending a guy who whiped his dick out unwarntedly infront of co-workers. I am defending the guy that YOU are LYING about doing that. Who asked for consent from random groopies who apreciated his success and he thought were atractive and thought they might be into having sex with him, which is perfectly normal human behavior.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

... even though I'm guessing you don't whip your dick out inappropriately in front of people, and I'm guessing that if your mom or sister told you a story about a guy at their work even asking "can I pull my dick out" you'd be upset.

Sure, but again, we're not talking about a guy at work doing that.

My value is this: I want people to be held accountable for their actions, and what you have made abundantly clear is you dont even know what actually happened and you're spreading lies about what did, and using that to make a social stance and make claims that are not true about the state of sexism in America.

I want equality, and I want us to be aware that we have it, and I want people who say that we dont to be called out for the charlatans they are.

Im all for us fixing problems but right now we are creating new ones, where we didnt even fucking have them, UNDER THE LIE that we are trying to solve the problems in society.

I see a nation of cucks, being played by other people people. It didnt bother me when it was just rhetoric, but now you're actively attacking my way of life, removing things that I like, like netflix comedy specials by LCK on some holy roller quest because you're upset that LCK has sex in a wierd way.

Jesus christ its pathetic, its like some puritanical christian shit, only its the fucking atheists that are trying to take away our sexual identy this time.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Feminism is about equality, and equality is about solving both men and womens issues.

There is nothing equal about men having more power in our society (and having had even more power historically). There's nothing equal about one gender facing harrassment, abuse, and flat out rape at rates 10x men.

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. men do not report sexual harrasment for a multitude of reasons, one of which being men are as oppressed as woman are in today's society, especially when sharing this type of info.

Complete bullshit. Even if I bought that men "are as oppressed" (which is demonstrably false), if women were harrassing/abusing/raping men at even half the levels that men do we'd hear about at least one case. But we don't: every last one of the many, many news stories from the past year have been about male attackers. The only female I can even think of is that one teacher who slept with her students, and again there are like 10x more of those stories involving men (they just don't make the national news).

As for the rest of your post, men certainly suffer from our current gender roles too. The suicide rate is a perfect example of this: there's a genuine cost to us always being told "boys don't cry" "real men don't act like that", etc. Making our society more equal absolutely means addressing the problems with our society's definition of the male gender role ... but that does not mean men and women are equal.

Again, when you face 10x (or even just 1x) of the rate of harrasment/abuse/rape that women face then you can say that women aren't oppressed. Personally I'm a big fan of not being raped myself, and I'd really like it if the 1/3rd-1/4th of the female population that will get raped in their lifetime could feel the same.

[mickmoranis]

Lor, I cannot convince you. You are clouded by emotion and you have only posted falseism about what happened to LCK

You have made it abundantly clear that the narritive is what fuels your decision making and I am sorry to say that we just disagree. You can go ahead thinking that women are under attack. But to reply to juris and you in the same thread:

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And so, current internet feminism proves not only irrelevant here -- but destructive to the socialist cause. Divide and conquer. Republicans on one side, Democrats on the other.

I can tell you this much, if this bullshit doesn't change in the next 3 years, by the time we have another election, everyone's going to vote for anyone who isnt a fucking fembott and you can bet the farm that trump will win again.

I mean seriously, now John Lasseter is taking a leave of absence. Shrek 3 and Emoji the animated movies only from now on, cus why? CUS JOHN HUGGED EVERYONE and some (like 4) women took that as a sexual advance.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, when you face 10x (or even just 1x) of the rate of harrasment/abuse/rape that women face then you can say that women aren't oppressed. Personally I'm a big fan of not being raped myself, and I'd really like it if the 1/3rd-1/4th of the female population that will get raped in their lifetime could feel the same.

Oh by the way, so far over half the allegations of sexual harassment in hollywood are from MALE victims. So take your bullshit lies and rhetoric and shove it up your polarbear hat.

[Lulz~Sect]

Excuse me miss, m-m-may I touch your genitals and spit in your mouth?
-Courting a woman in 2018

[loramin]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lor, I cannot convince you. You are clouded by emotion and you have only posted falseism about what happened to LCK

I'm actually very easily swayed by logic, but your posts tend to be emotional and rely on huge logical "leaps". Come at me with some logic man!

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh by the way, so far over half the allegations of sexual harassment in hollywood are from MALE victims. So take your bullshit lies and rhetoric and shove it up your polarbear hat.

Pics or it didn't happen. Show me some proof that "over half the allegations of sexual harassment in hollywood are from MALE victims".

Originally Posted by Lulz~Sect [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Excuse me miss, m-m-may I touch your genitals and spit in your mouth?
-Courting a woman in 2018

I'm not sure that would make the best pickup line, but for some women it just might work [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[mickmoranis]

loramin, each accusation you have made I have shown you it is false.

You seriously going to sit there and not pretend that gay people have been the greater victim in Hollywood from sexual deviance? Fuck dude, they cant even fucking marry. Jesus Christ you libtards are insane.