Miscellaneous: P99 should have a +Mana cap and revised Base Mana Formula

[Daldaen]

Bump. Hoping this can get looked at prior to Green launch. Probably won’t matter for a few months but once twinking alts happens it’s a factor and come Velious its a factor on level 60 characters.

[mycoolrausch]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bump. Hoping this can get looked at prior to Green launch. Probably won’t matter for a few months but once twinking alts happens it’s a factor and come Velious its a factor on level 60 characters.

If there's one thing velious wizards need it's a nerf.

good find OP

[Daldaen]

Bump

[Daldaen]

Bump

[Daldaen]

Bump. This is good classicquest that needs to get looked at fixing.

[Daldaen]

New year new bump. One day maybe the mana value for casters will be made classic.

[mycoolrausch]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

New year new bump. One day maybe the mana value for casters will be made classic.

wizards doing 13k to aow instead of 11k, while rogues and monks do 30k. nerf wizards asap! ^ this guy

[Rygar]

Would be sweet if updated for green 2.0, even if blue is chosen not to use this classic mechanic

[Rygar]

Just cruising the archives, found a 2/14/2001 post talking about how casters can get capped on +mana gear, making a differentiation from +INT/WIS. Is a rant on how they should add casting haste or something as further gear simply doesn't increase their total mana once capped.

https://web.archive.org/web/20010223.../057442-4.html

What I don't understand, is why VI keeps refusing to give casters some form of 'haste' (for lack of a better term).
We have an INT cap, a +mana cap, so why are we continually getting items that add +int and +mana? So I can have a change of clothes that does the same thing but with the stats switched around? Where is my uber gear, that makes me a BETTER CASTER? No such thing exists. I still cast the same, I still get resisted the same, I still have max mana...I never become a BETTER CASTER. I just have a few hundred extra mana, maybe. I get to cast one more (resisted) spell. Or twitch a cleric one more time. That's the BEST I can hope for out of any new gear. Then you hit the cap on your mana...and there are no improvements from then on, ever.

What would be SO imbalancing about getting BETTER at casting your spells as you increase in levels? Isn't it...*gasp* logical that you would?

I just don't understand. What would be the problem? The ONLY difference in me naked and me with my gear is my mana pool. And my mana pool is still too small...if I even have anything to do besides feed mana to the cleric.

I just want to be useful, and wanted. Is that so much to ask? =(

Possibly a bit open to interpretation if they are just adding up max +mana on items known to them, but seems more than that.

[Rygar]

More evidence:
https://web.archive.org/web/20000510...ML/000002.html

posted 04-25-2000
Hail all,
Well as i so hurriedly ran from butcherblock to cabilis with a lvl 9 monk. I gave my lvl 1 iksar necro items that totalled around 130mana. To my amazement, it added a big total of 0 mana. i thougth it might just be being lvl1, level 2 nada, level 3 nada, lvl 4 didn't get to play enough before i got booted. I did however cast my lvl 1 shield spell a few times and i can't tell if it added any at lvl 4. If anyone else has any information or same problems please let me know. I also have noticed that the iksar have a xp bonus to lvl 4 so far that i noticed. maybe its the newbie xp i dunno.

Others go on to say they don't have that problem from items, but this player is saying specifically to a level 1 or early toon, not an advanced character. They go on to reference EQ devs about soft mana cap which has already been referenced in the OP.