It's Time to Start Allowing for Open Naggy/Vox Raids (open letter to Raiders)

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I spent more than a few months in a fairly popular/successful "casual" raid guild that operates right now on p99. I seen firsthand how they were all over golems and how they drooled over getting tears that were looted solely for MQs.

I can say from experience, I watched how the inner circle of that guild got most, and fringe guild members got what slowly trickled down.

How did members get to be in that inner circle? People kissed officers asses, and got to group up in cliques with the officers. These people always were prioritized to be helped while lesser favored members had to beg for help, and usually ended up waiting months to get assistance when they needed guild support.

Cecily, I realize you have a personal problem with me however why don't you refrain from speaking about me when it's clear you honestly know nothing about me. Thanks pal. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, so you spent 4+ months in a shitty random casual guild and now you have insightful commentary to share with those of us who've been dealing with this shit for years and are just now giving us a lesson on how things work in the raiding world. Thank you, you lovable forum retard.

Let's not get into how your shitty random casual guild's officers / inner circle were corrupt and unlikable people like yourself couldn't get help, because it's completely unrelated to who's killing Naggy ATM. The reason you and I are talking right now. You're off topic and full of shit and ignorant of the subject matter of what you're talking about. Shut up before I eviscerate your dumb ass posts line by line.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Obeast44 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wrong, not a few days ago a multi guild group was clearing fire giants on the way to Naggy, mostly consisting of 45-52s. As soon as we got close, about 30+ a Aftermath logged into the hallways, swiped the kill, and logged right back out in said hallway. That's neckbeard pixel monger BS, and it needs to be addressed.

I am not saying you are wrong, perhaps Aftermath is hogging all the lesser tier raid mobs now.

But - you have one anecdotal piece of evidence, one situation and you are ready to proclaim that Aftermath does this constantly and all the time?

I just think many people in this thread have personal dislikings for certain guilds/people and are reacting on those feelings, instead of simply showing support for the actual meaning of the thread.

***That includes me, I am a bit jaded towards some guilds due to personal experiences with them.

Anyway, I am done with this thread GL with making this work. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*snipped angry rant*

Cecily... We all have limited experiences in part because it's impossible to have experienced everything that every guild has done. Thus, naturally we speak from our personal albeit limited experiences. That's kind of how people operate, right?

I just find it funny you ask me to leave you alone on the forums, and yet you want to openly attack me. I honored your request, why not provide a little quid pro quo here?

Anyway, I am done with this thread GL with making this work. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[skarlorn]

I like the idea of having to duel Eratani's 52 naggy champion. Even if it doesn't matter I think it's very cute and fun. Someone please do this.

[pogs4ever]

AM has a monopoly on nagafen. it's Not even close.

[Freakish]

I do not agree to this I will burn it to the ground.

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do not agree to this I will burn it to the ground.

send me ur RL info i'll send a Maceman over ASAP to help ya with ur problem <3

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cecily... We all have limited experiences in part because it's impossible to have experienced everything that every guild has done. Thus, naturally we speak from our personal albeit limited experiences. That's kind of how people operate, right?

I just find it funny you ask me to leave you alone on the forums, and yet you want to openly attack me. I honored your request, why not provide a little quid pro quo here?

Anyway, I am done with this thread GL with making this work. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't like it when you express yourself on these boards because your thoughts aren't insightful, fun to read, or funny. People treat you with kid gloves because I'm pretty sure we all think you're legitimately retarded and no one feels good about being mean to a mentally challenged individual. However, the level of stupid shit you post reaches critical mass on regular intervals and I can't restrain myself from trying to figuratively smack that smug grin off your idiot face. Please find a different community.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Serious commitment? That is Eratani's alt, though some people have access to it. The statement I made yesterday holds true. We have batphoned/killed 2 Lord Nagafens in 3.5 months.

How many has CSG done?

I think most people would think warrior with EPIC that is kept at level 52 and used at max 2x a week is indeed a serious commitment to Naggy / Vox (considering how many warrior mains yearn for their epic). I was more shocked to see that than anything, I have heard some folks de-level after gathering top pixels and such. I had a warrior on live (never got epic despite working hard for it), so it surprised me.

I know CSG does do Naggy/Vox a lot and is a major contributor to kills, I made mention of that in my original post in this thread. My personal opinion is no guild should maintain a 52 army (whether it be CSG / Kittens / A/A, etc), I like the open raid idea. In this Filbus dream world I would love to see top guilds helping people newer to the server to raid Vox/Naggy weekly if they are 46-52, host open raids as maybe guild PR and do at scheduled times. I know people will pick holes at that (such as not enough new members to maintain, how to monitor someone doesn't try to farm the raids, etc). I'm just a filthy casual though who isn't that concerned with pixels.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like the idea of having to duel Eratani's 52 naggy champion. Even if it doesn't matter I think it's very cute and fun. Someone please do this.

See Llandris, this is what happens when you let people beat you in duels: look at the monster you have created!

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't like it when you express yourself on these boards because your thoughts aren't insightful, fun to read, or funny. People treat you with kid gloves because I'm pretty sure we all think you're legitimately retarded and no one feels good about being mean to a mentally challenged individual. However, the level of stupid shit you post reaches critical mass on regular intervals and I can't restrain myself from trying to figuratively smack that smug grin off your idiot face. Please find a different community.

You've never been a very personable person, but your issues with Lhancelot are crazy town. Seek help.

/em prepares for a wall of crazy Cecily hate

[Cecily]

I don't like you either.