How to save red

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Strangely enough, it was clearly toxic people using encouraging me to group as a method of griefing that drove me from the server pretty quickly, so...I find your argument invalid.

That's a bummer, I've actually never been griefed on Red. I picked it back up a couple months ago and before that I played pretty regularly a couple years ago as well.

You're saying a group of people lured you into a group to kill you? Is it possible that your own behavior provoked it?

[Swish]

^^ good post

[Dulu]

No.

If anything, open a new PvP server, and force merge all of the current red characters onto blue.

Teams PvP.

[mickmoranis]

there is a common missconception that p99'ers have and that is that they are adults now and cassual so why would they want someone greifing them while they get a chance play everquest?

Its different on red, you dont play the same way, you play to progress your character and the content we obviously love, but the key is to PLAY the content we love...

Red adds an element to a game that we're all stretching to its limits on an emu.

Join red to just play everquest, cast spells on people, greif, have fun, win/lose, fuck around etc

If you want to farm hill giants uninterrupted, then red (well right now red is definitely the right choice because aint nobody gonna bother you out there these days) then play blue.

But if you want to just fuck around and casually play EQ, creating funny stories and adventures, red eq is the clear winner.

If only the community would figure that out [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Izmael]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But if you want to just fuck around and casually play EQ, creating funny stories and adventures, red eq is the clear winner.

The other day, I needed to buy a few tink bags on red so I walked, very slowly, with about 20k pp on me from NFP to Sol A on a level 56 character and didn't encounter anyone in any of the zones I crossed.

I thought it would be dangerous and feel like an adventure, but really, it wasn't.

Community is puke-worthy although a few decent souls obviously stand out. I don't know why people say red forums aren't a representative sample of the red community. I played on red for a year and found it extremely representative.

[coldslaw]

Most people don't like forced PVP, or any PVP for that matter, and don't want to put up with the constant bullshit. All of the pros you guys keep listing as reason to play on Red are cons to most people:

* It's fun to constantly look over your shoulder. No.
* It's fun to worry about losing any PP you might have on you. No. And no, having to fool with converting it to gems is not fun either.
* It's fun when 90% of the zones are empty. No.
* It's fun having to think about what order your buffs are stacked on. No.
* It's fun having a buffed twink come completely stop your xp group. No.
* It's fun getting a group and XP super fast! Not really, the higher you get the more PVP bullshit you have to deal with.
* It's fun to solo for days in a row because there hardly any other players in your level range, or if there are they aren't close. No.

Now if you had certain zones that were PVP, contested zones with a high reward value for the risk, more people would probably participate. That won't ever happen, so might as well be happy with the 10% that enjoy that for one reason or another. You have to give normal people some reason to do it other than "LOL its fun to be interrupted in what you are doing or interrupt what other people are trying to do" or "You can camp whatever you want because there is hardly anyone here to play with!!"

[Salaryman]

Originally Posted by coldslaw [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most people don't like forced PVP, or any PVP for that matter, and don't want to put up with the constant bullshit. All of the pros you guys keep listing as reason to play on Red are cons to most people:

* It's fun to constantly look over your shoulder. No.
* It's fun to worry about losing any PP you might have on you. No. And no, having to fool with converting it to gems is not fun either.
* It's fun when 90% of the zones are empty. No.
* It's fun having to think about what order your buffs are stacked on. No.
* It's fun having a buffed twink come completely stop your xp group. No.
* It's fun getting a group and XP super fast! Not really, the higher you get the more PVP bullshit you have to deal with.
* It's fun to solo for days in a row because there hardly any other players in your level range, or if there are they aren't close. No.

Now if you had certain zones that were PVP, contested zones with a high reward value for the risk, more people would probably participate. That won't ever happen, so might as well be happy with the 10% that enjoy that for one reason or another. You have to give normal people some reason to do it other than "LOL its fun to be interrupted in what you are doing or interrupt what other people are trying to do" or "You can camp whatever you want because there is hardly anyone here to play with!!"

why u type all of this noone cares nerd get a life

[coldslaw]

Originally Posted by Salaryman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why u type all of this noone cares nerd get a life

* It's fun to deal with people like this. No

Rants and Flames looks to be more your style. Why don't you let the adults have a conversation.

[Topgunben]

I got a great idea. Make odd days of the month PVP. Make even days of the month non PVP.

[Quadrono]

Im torn, part of me says PVP in EQ is horribad and wasting resources on a PVP server is just that, wasteful.

Then I remember that if there was no red, all the hackers, trolls and griefers that server attracts would be on the real P99 server and then im all for its continued existence.

Its hard sometimes.