Official Everquest Progression Server Release

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Has anyone considered the possibility of using the progression server to collect source/whatever data for p99? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will be in old cazic thule taking data as fast as I can.

I also want to get in paw too, and see what it is like. See what version they put up.

I have a live account for gathering data, comparing mechanics, etc., lately I have been doing it all the time. I am going to have to suck it up and update a lot of seq opcodes though. I am so lazy. Oh well, its all for the greater good.

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[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will be in old cazic thule taking data as fast as I can.

I also want to get in paw too, and see what it is like. See what version they put up.

I have a live account for gathering data, comparing mechanics, etc., lately I have been doing it all the time. I am going to have to suck it up and update a lot of seq opcodes though. I am so lazy. Oh well, its all for the greater good.

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Haha, I figured you guys would think of that before me.

[Harrison]

They are so terrible at their jobs that it's disgusting.

[Hobby]

The funny thing is, even though everyone knows it will suck..they will still flock to it.

[Slathar]

its going to have a huge population for 3-4 months and taper off but i think it will be fun to start over at level 1.

i think that is the appeal for a lot of people really. there just isn't anything to do on p1999 right now for people who have multiple level 50s with maxed skills and some decent equipment. so why not give it a try?

[Secrets]

The most vocal way to express your displeasure about this Fippy Darkpaw server and the voting would be, get this, to sway the vote each time it pops up. Eventually, the devs will realize what the community wants, and will disable the vote entirely. The only reason they did not release a classic server is because they have no legitimate way of judging if that's what people actually want.

With Project 1999 and an ever-growing nostalgic potential playerbase, it is no wonder that if there is a demand for it, they will supply it.

If you have an active live account, I advise you to sway the vote as yes on Kunark, and no on Velious. Besides P1999, it's the only way you are going to get an official 'classic' experience. Maybe someone, someday will solve the glowing black stone quest mystery, and we can implement it here. There's a ton of content left undiscovered in EverQuest according to Sony, and honestly none of it is going to be discovered unless some sort of classic server is made by them. (who would be in kael, qeynos hills, etc, at 90?)

I dream that one day P1999 and SOE could collaborate to bring back those zones they removed, the exact formulas for how things are spawned, basically being the most perfect thing. In fact I am surprised that SOE did not even send us an email (not a C&D of course :P) asking to collaborate with P1999 data and compare it versus theirs and provide an unmatched classic experience. P1999 has the potential, if it were an official SOE product, to outsell any new EQ expansion pack that is coming out by sheer subscription fees alone. There's 600 players on P1999 on peak hours eastern time, around the same in the mornings & afternoons, so multiply that 600 by 3.

That's 1600 * 15 per month plus the extra people that could be coming in because it's officially supported by Sony and refuse to play P1999 for legal reasons. Sony could potentially be making a lot of cash with little effort by their part. With house of thule selling anywhere from 25k-144k copies (estimated by the amount of people logged into general chat at peak hours), and the amount of development time it takes for each expansion plus costs for those developers, it would basically be a new cash cow bigger than the SC marketplace for them. Some of us already play SOE games, so that would increase their station access subs a lot too.

About the marketplace on fippy... Personally I wouldn't mind the marketplace. Sure, it will not be classic but it will fill in the gap for the "ebay" part of the classic era. I mean, we trade items for favors here, there's no reason why RMT for items shouldn't be allowed (plus Sony would likely be upset if their games didn't have a marketplace. though there is none in DCUO, so maybe... dunno.)

All in all I am really excited to see the community input for Fippy. Not so much the gameplay, I never liked classic but the people that do... they love it.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The most vocal way to express your displeasure about this Fippy Darkpaw server and the voting would be, get this, to sway the vote each time it pops up. Eventually, the devs will realize what the community wants, and will disable the vote entirely. The only reason they did not release a classic server is because they have no legitimate way of judging if that's what people actually want.

With Project 1999 and an ever-growing nostalgic potential playerbase, it is no wonder that if there is a demand for it, they will supply it.

If you have an active live account, I advise you to sway the vote as yes on Kunark, and no on Velious. Besides P1999, it's the only way you are going to get an official 'classic' experience. Maybe someone, someday will solve the glowing black stone quest mystery, and we can implement it here. There's a ton of content left undiscovered in EverQuest according to Sony, and honestly none of it is going to be discovered unless some sort of classic server is made by them. (who would be in kael, qeynos hills, etc, at 90?)

I dream that one day P1999 and SOE could collaborate to bring back those zones they removed, the exact formulas for how things are spawned, basically being the most perfect thing. In fact I am surprised that SOE did not even send us an email (not a C&D of course :P) asking to collaborate with P1999 data and compare it versus theirs and provide an unmatched classic experience. P1999 has the potential, if it were an official SOE product, to outsell any new EQ expansion pack that is coming out by sheer subscription fees alone. There's 600 players on P1999 on peak hours eastern time, around the same in the mornings & afternoons, so multiply that 600 by 3.

That's 1600 * 15 per month plus the extra people that could be coming in because it's officially supported by Sony and refuse to play P1999 for legal reasons. Sony could potentially be making a lot of cash with little effort by their part. With house of thule selling anywhere from 25k-144k copies (estimated by the amount of people logged into general chat at peak hours), and the amount of development time it takes for each expansion plus costs for those developers, it would basically be a new cash cow bigger than the SC marketplace for them. Some of us already play SOE games, so that would increase their station access subs a lot too.

About the marketplace on fippy... Personally I wouldn't mind the marketplace. Sure, it will not be classic but it will fill in the gap for the "ebay" part of the classic era. I mean, we trade items for favors here, there's no reason why RMT for items shouldn't be allowed (plus Sony would likely be upset if their games didn't have a marketplace. though there is none in DCUO, so maybe... dunno.)

All in all I am really excited to see the community input for Fippy. Not so much the gameplay, I never liked classic but the people that do... they love it.

The problem with all of this is that we have utter retards willing to pay them for a half-assed server. (look in this thread...)

They're not going to put any effort in, or compromise, when they can get away with their bullshit now.

Personally, they can keep those pricks. We don't even like them here.

[Sixpence]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with all of this is that we have utter retards willing to pay them for a half-assed server. (look in this thread...)

They're not going to put any effort in, or compromise, when they can get away with their bullshit now.

Personally, they can keep those pricks. We don't even like them here.

What are you, 12? People will play on it because they want to.

Yep, that's about it....doesn't mean they're anymore of a Pr*ck that you are.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Hobby [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The funny thing is, even though everyone knows it will suck..they will still flock to it.

This is kind of a ridiculous statement Hobby.

P99 is great, and you guys who have put so much work into have done an amazing job. However, as Rogean pointed out, P99's goal is to recreate a classic experience, where as Sony and their staff really don't care about an authentic classic experience. The goals of the two projects are completely different.

I have had a blast on P99 and hope to continue doing so in the future, but I also think that the Fippy server offers the prospect of some really fun gaming, so I will "flock" to it; however, I think the implication of your post is a bit silly (implication being that we're some how ignorant or foolish as we are aware the server will suck, yet still choose to play there).

I honestly think comparing P99 to Fippy is like comparing apples to oranges - they're both fruit (recreations of Everquest), but while one is a delicious citrus snack (P99), the other a day keeps doctors away (Fippy).

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is kind of a ridiculous statement Hobby.

P99 is great, and you guys who have put so much work into have done an amazing job. However, as Rogean pointed out, P99's goal is to recreate a classic experience, where as Sony and their staff really don't care about an authentic classic experience. The goals of the two projects are completely different.

I have had a blast on P99 and hope to continue doing so in the future, but I also think that the Fippy server offers the prospect of some really fun gaming, so I will "flock" to it; however, I think the implication of your post is a bit silly (implication being that we're some how ignorant or foolish as we are aware the server will suck, yet still choose to play there).

I honestly think comparing P99 to Fippy is like comparing apples to oranges - they're both fruit (recreations of Everquest), but while one is a delicious citrus snack (P99), the other a day keeps doctors away (Fippy).

Seems to me that there is just some insecurity on the part of hard-core 99'ers about anyone playing on fippy. the more insecure have already starting saying things like you would have to be an idiot to play there or you are a traitor if you play there, etc.

as noted, the purpose of the projects is totally different. one does not directly compete with the other, except in the sense that if someone logs in on one they aren't logging in on the other at the same time most likely.

the p99 devs have said numerous times in the last year that the players here don't matter to their project, and that they would be doing what they are doing if the population on p99 were only 50 players...so all the hate from the insecure about sony stealing your population is not really a threat, even it were to happen (which it prob won't because, again, the projects are totally different).

I will be playing on both servers. I don't share the popular hatred of the so-called "$OE" and have no problem plunking down $30/month for a couple accounts. If it is "stupid" to spend a dollar a day to have fun and play EQ on live then I guess I'm an idiot.

So much hate.