Raid Suspending best idea GM's had in a long time

[Ella`Ella]

Who owns JCRs forum account now?

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who owns JCRs forum account now?

BDA as a whole owns it. We bought it with our ill gotten p99 cashout fund. Usually we let Lotharus drive the account, occasionally we let anthrax post. You can usually tell it's anthrax when the posts come off sounding super crazed.

[Fifield]

Originally Posted by Suwu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you've turned into a little bitch fifield, good god.

I saw the light, maybe one day you will too.

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand the point being made, and I am telling you why it doesn't work. There need to be rules to have order. No rules? Do you not count the order of a rotation a rule?

As it stood, at least once a month Detoxx and I argued about the specifics of Tunare. With clear written rules, there is no need to argue. Point to the rule, either a guild is or isn't abiding by it. Done.

I totally get the idea behind you guys's order. I just think its crazy the layers of rules you have to make in order to come to agreements.

Should be easier then what you guys deal with

[Lobus]

CSR could also just institute Stalin style penalties for fucking with server harmony. Instead of 10 day raiding bans, you literally decimate the ranks.

Any offense leads to a random 10% of the tagged toons being reset back to lvl 1 with all items and money poofed. Would make people think twice about breaking the rules AND joining guilds who'd leadership are next-level-autistic

[Breaken]

The Growth agreement has nothing to do with anything other than formalizing agreements publicly. As I keep saying, there is always an issue with the agreement because new scenarios arise. Just thinking recently, both guilds have complained about the length of time before the other attempted to kill Tunare. Aftermath failed to clear the zone to even attempt Tunare and we argued over the definition of an attempt. Detoxx argued that since you didn't attempt her, it didn't count. He also argued that in response to a failed clear, the zone was FFA. More recently, Aftermath failed to kill Tunare. Detoxx argued that the next one must count as Awakened's turn or he was done with the agreement.

This is not how either of us want to spend our day. Writing complete sets of rules for these scenarios saves time and frustration in the end.

I am completely fine with CSG getting on the Tunare rotation, provided they kill her, and I am fine with them attempting to get on the rotation until they do kill her.

[evbo766]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Growth agreement has nothing to do with anything other than formalizing agreements publicly. As I keep saying, there is always an issue with the agreement because new scenarios arise. Just thinking recently, both guilds have complained about the length of time before the other attempted to kill Tunare. Aftermath failed to clear the zone to even attempt Tunare and we argued over the definition of an attempt. Detoxx argued that since you didn't attempt her, it didn't count. He also argued that in response to a failed clear, the zone was FFA. More recently, Aftermath failed to kill Tunare. Detoxx argued that the next one must count as Awakened's turn or he was done with the agreement.

This is not how either of us want to spend our day. Writing complete sets of rules for these scenarios saves time and frustration in the end.

I am completely fine with CSG getting on the Tunare rotation, provided they kill her, and I am fine with them attempting to get on the rotation until they do kill her.

So you think that if we spend 8 hours clearing growth and fail to kill Tunare (because it's the day before Christmas Eve and we had a tough time pulling numbers and most of our MTs were out of town) you should be able to go in the next day and clear it AND get the next one?

Fuck outa here you moron.

CSG can go in and have a turn whenever as far as we're concerned. Trying to write a rule to formalize things while adding in guidelines around wiping and handing over the mob after a 10 hour clear is such a douchey try hard move. How bout just don't be a fuckboy and let them try and keep doing what we've been doing.

[FatMice]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Growth agreement has nothing to do with anything other than formalizing agreements publicly. As I keep saying, there is always an issue with the agreement because new scenarios arise. Just thinking recently, both guilds have complained about the length of time before the other attempted to kill Tunare. Aftermath failed to clear the zone to even attempt Tunare and we argued over the definition of an attempt. Detoxx argued that since you didn't attempt her, it didn't count. He also argued that in response to a failed clear, the zone was FFA. More recently, Aftermath failed to kill Tunare. Detoxx argued that the next one must count as Awakened's turn or he was done with the agreement.

This is not how either of us want to spend our day. Writing complete sets of rules for these scenarios saves time and frustration in the end.

I am completely fine with CSG getting on the Tunare rotation, provided they kill her, and I am fine with them attempting to get on the rotation until they do kill her.

TLDR;
Those nerds couldn't kill Tunare. My nerds want to kill Tunare. Also, my nerds have no patience for other nerds failings. At the same time my nerds don't care if new nerds get in on the Tunare action even tho it would mean more time in between when my nerds can kill Tunare.

[evbo766]

Forgot to swap accounts but this is Legday, before you think I'm hiding behind an anon acct.

[icedwards]

Originally Posted by FatMice [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TLDR;
Those nerds couldn't kill Tunare. My nerds want to kill Tunare. Also, my nerds have no patience for other nerds failings. At the same time my nerds don't care if new nerds get in on the Tunare action even tho it would mean more time in between when my nerds can kill Tunare.

Basically.

Is your guild capable of killing Tunare? Take a shot at the roatation, but don't shit yourself like Legday just did when one of the other guilds capable of killing her get frustrated when she's left up for 2 weeks.

[Breaken]

Originally Posted by evbo766 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you think that if we spend 8 hours clearing growth and fail to kill Tunare (because it's the day before Christmas Eve and we had a tough time pulling numbers and most of our MTs were out of town) you should be able to go in the next day and clear it AND get the next one?

You choose the day you clear. If you choose to do it on a rough night, why do it? Also, no I don't think we should be able to go in and clear it AND get the next one. That is why I posted no FFA terms in the proposed agreement. Maybe you should read it again.

I guess if we had a formal agreement on the terms of a growth agreement, the debate of who goes next wouldn't be a problem, would it?