P99 Auctions is Closing - Page 8

thufir · #1 10-31-2016, 01:30 PM

the various points about information and lack thereof are on target.

as any trader knows, you want less information to be available to your opponents than what you have available to yourself.

p99auctions was a public aggregator site, with its information available to all. now that it is down everyone loses information, but those who had less information (traded less often) suffer most, since this information bloc represented a much larger percentage of their total knowledge than it did to an experienced tunnelquester. that this information could have been manipulated by others is not relevant. those same people will be able to manipulate information in their private trades more easily now, because this site isn't around to contradict them.

again this is not rocket science. it's how you trade and make money, by gaining informational advantages over others.

so, yes. a sad day for the non tunnel people. but hey, being a trader in this way is some classic shit. we'll learn to live with the middle men taking larger cuts / being cheated harder (depending on your perspective).

Lhancelot · #2 10-31-2016, 01:41 PM

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the various points about information and lack thereof are on target.

as any trader knows, you want less information to be available to your opponents than what you have available to yourself.

p99auctions was a public aggregator site, with its information available to all. now that it is down everyone loses information, but those who had less information (traded less often) suffer most, since this information bloc represented a much larger percentage of their total knowledge than it did to an experienced tunnelquester. that this information could have been manipulated by others is not relevant. those same people will be able to manipulate information in their private trades more easily now, because this site isn't around to contradict them.

again this is not rocket science. it's how you trade and make money, by gaining informational advantages over others.

so, yes. a sad day for the non tunnel people. but hey, being a trader in this way is some classic shit. we'll learn to live with the middle men taking larger cuts / being cheated harder (depending on your perspective).

Yeah good point. Pretty much all of this post.

Joyelle · #3 10-31-2016, 02:01 PM

Tin foil stocks are through the roof today!

paulgiamatti · #4 10-31-2016, 02:11 PM

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Movember · #5 10-31-2016, 05:50 PM

Well this sucks - it was a great service/idea.

Aussie · #6 10-31-2016, 06:15 PM

If anyone knows the team behind this site, please have them reach out to me via PM - might be able to work something out.

tristantio · #7 10-31-2016, 10:28 PM

What questionable thing have I done in the past? Removed the ability to use my site with ad blockers enabled for the period I was running ads to cover hosting?

If you haven't noticed, I have had the ads on my site disabled for the last year and a half or so (and provided this site/service that does what p99auctions did since around 2011, 5 years now).

Like I said, they probably had some motivation to do the site (start up venture, collecting user details etc.) and like the other clone sites (p99 maps) has copied something I put together with more glamor, then came and went.

As always, the tools I've put together for p99 are freely available for anyone to download, re-use, modify, do anything with (as all the site code has been open source on my github):

Auction site:
http://ahungry.com/eqauctions

Source (run your own auction server!):
https://github.com/ahungry/com.ahungry

Auction log uploader (point the url to your server and have friends upload their own logs):
https://github.com/ahungry/eqAuction

Realtime synchronized Map app (runs in local web browser) + p99 patching application:
https://github.com/ahungry/p99-patcher

Single user map application (no sync with other players) but in native sdl2:
https://github.com/ahungry/ahungry-map

Oh, and as typing this, I remember paulgiamatti is the guy who was guilded with the thief who ran off with my Fungi after a botched transfer when I trusted a random 50+ to assist me with it (at which time I had put out a call to action on my site condemning the aforementioned's guild).

arsenalpow · #8 10-31-2016, 10:34 PM

The person that put together p99auctions is a former BDA that's actually still active on p99, the dude wanted to do something nice for the server and scratch a programming itch that he had. There was nothing to be gathered or gained, it was merely an exercise to work with some new skills and do something nice for p99 in the process.

tristantio · #9 10-31-2016, 10:45 PM

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The person that put together p99auctions is a former BDA that's actually still active on p99, the dude wanted to do something nice for the server and scratch a programming itch that he had. There was nothing to be gathered or gained, it was merely an exercise to work with some new skills and do something nice for p99 in the process.

Oh nice - I know he released the client source after my asking about it last time, does he plan to release the site source so someone else can take and extend it now?

Sirelk · #10 10-31-2016, 10:51 PM

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WHAT DID YOU DO?!?!

You crazy sperg.