For fans of heavy metal [Lot of Youtube links]

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i can't tell if that's some kind of small animal/insect gore or a pastry

Exactly! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
It's a tasty mushroom. Called something like Satan's Mushroom. Mmmmm looks so tasty.
Would you eat one if you saw it while lost in the woods? I sure would!

[barrettdc1]

Not Whitechapel's greatest shit, but it brings it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbANenk8o1o

[barrettdc1]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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It's a tasty mushroom. Called something like Satan's Mushroom. Mmmmm looks so tasty.
Would you eat one if you saw it while lost in the woods? I sure would!

That's a definite fuck no.

[Ahldagor]

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kqa3BnSgmE8

[Csihar]

Originally Posted by Chaboo_Cleric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No Cyber Metal? No Metal Core? No Emo Metal? No Lithium metal? No Steam metal?

You are lacking

I don't take any shit from someone who clearly skips leg day.

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

List invalid, missing Metallica. Metallica ranks around #3 of most influential metal bands ever, and certainly the top thrash metal band of history. Personal taste, they rank above the top two most influential metal bands of the widely accepted lists around

"Chose songs based on variety and somewhat lesser known bands."

That was the only reason why.

I don't agree with #3 but they are without a single shred of a doubt one of the most influential metal bands ever. And there a lot of idiots who don't realize this and even minimize their first 2 albums because of their later work. Metallica had a huge effect on metal and no thrash without them.

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I wouldn't put any form of punk in resemblance of metal, may as well throw country in too. They only share roots, being from blues and then rock. Time scale may be the same as with most rock (common 4/4), but technique is completely different.

You're very wrong here. I agree that their formation was different but there has been influence on both sides.

Motörhead is widely seen as a metal band (Lemmy always claimed them as simply 'rock and roll') but Lemmy thinks they were more alike to The Damned for example (there's an interview if you want me to fish it up). It's one of the bands that both metal and punk fans liked.

Venom was very influenced by punk.

Metallica was very influenced by punk.

Bathory was very influenced by punk.

Sludge metal is very influenced by punk.

Then there is of course Crossover thrash, grindcore, d-beat, crust punk, street punk etc.

Punk band Amebix. No metal in their sound?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QzdubnPPCo

Punk band Charged G.B.H.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAqeA5Hc0K4

Metal band Bathory before their debut album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-iuIArton4

Discharge?

Originally Posted by Psionide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Manowar is like the personification of power metal and they were the world's loudest band at certain points.

Definitely should have been added to US power metal yeah.

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Behemoth
Krisiun
Zyklon
Amon Amarth
Wolves in the Throne Room
Midnight Odyssey
Old Man's Child
Fen
Opeth
Marduk
Satryicon
Ihsahn
Gojira
Gorgoroth
Mrykskog

Could be added in applicable spots.

Behemoth is a good suggestion for the black/death crossover stuff. I should add a post for that. I don't like Behemoth myself but "The Satanist" is a monster album.

WitTR is up there by the way. Feel free to add some scenes. If you're into WitTR you can post up some "Cascadian" black metal. US black metal scene deserves its own post. The Norwegian stuff is > all but the US bands have made their mark. Might get that it.

Originally Posted by Chaboo_Cleric

Metallica doesn't count after Cliff died

They had 2 more good records. AJFA was severely damaged by the production though. My enjoyment of the first 3 (especially KEA and RtL) > AJFA and The Black Album but they're still good.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Csihar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're very wrong here. I agree that their formation was different but there has been influence on both sides.

No, it really is different. Any indie musician website shows this, I mean where independent musicians go to find recorded loops or even midi files to load into VST's. A punk and metal category are two separate categories. You cant say.. go to the punk category and really build a coherent metal song out of what's available.

When I say technique, I'm really being technical here. Especially where concerning guitars and drums. There is a physical technique between the two styles that sets them apart.

Like for drums, there is a different pattern between them. Metal is like a war drum how it's arranged. You have the charge of the infantry, or the gallop of the cavalry as two examples. Punk more resembles the chaotic clash of a street brawl, or hit and run tactics of a militia.

When you get to guitars, you have metal more representing the clashing of swords and as they bend/arch through the air, or the dance of a fencer. Punk you're bashing someones face with your fist, pummeling them with a brick.

Then tempo isn't really a definer, you can find fast tempo in electric blues. You can turn up tempo, or slow it down - with most any genre and it still wont change the style of the instruments with how they are physically played. But when you get down to how instruments are played, the technique used, the arrangements, you specifically define the genre through the overall style of the song.

And I'm addressing the more established classic sense of these genres, as I know with the rise of the home studio software, the many people now trying their hand at composing, many are building Frankenstein's with them trying to be noticed as different and edgy.

Influences don't mean a whole lot. You'll find a lot of metal bands influenced by classical music like from Mozart to Beethoven. A youtube search will even provide metal versions of classical scores. You see the influence in metal because of the war drum effect, where some classical music patterns on that style as well. Ahh music theory hehe.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it really is different. Any indie musician website shows this, I mean where independent musicians go to find recorded loops or even midi files to load into VST's. A punk and metal category are two separate categories. You cant say.. go to the punk category and really build a coherent metal song out of what's available.

When I say technique, I'm really being technical here. Especially where concerning guitars and drums. There is a physical technique between the two styles that sets them apart.

Like for drums, there is a different pattern between them. Metal is like a war drum how it's arranged. You have the charge of the infantry, or the gallop of the cavalry as two examples. Punk more resembles the chaotic clash of a street brawl, or hit and run tactics of a militia.

When you get to guitars, you have metal more representing the clashing of swords and as they bend/arch through the air, or the dance of a fencer. Punk you're bashing someones face with your fist, pummeling them with a brick.

Then tempo isn't really a definer, you can find fast tempo in electric blues. You can turn up tempo, or slow it down - with most any genre and it still wont change the style of the instruments with how they are physically played. But when you get down to how instruments are played, the technique used, the arrangements, you specifically define the genre through the overall style of the song.

And I'm addressing the more established classic sense of these genres, as I know with the rise of the home studio software, the many people now trying their hand at composing, many are building Frankenstein's with them trying to be noticed as different and edgy.

Influences don't mean a whole lot. You'll find a lot of metal bands influenced by classical music like from Mozart to Beethoven. A youtube search will even provide metal versions of classical scores. You see the influence in metal because of the war drum effect, where some classical music patterns on that style as well. Ahh music theory hehe.

Autism.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Autism.

More like you're tone deaf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jN3q8GdAWs
https://youtu.be/Up3tS5WmTOA

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More like you're tone deaf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jN3q8GdAWs
https://youtu.be/Up3tS5WmTOA

More in your personal response essay on how you experience the music was the origination my comment. It was like you auditioning for a music critic job for npr.

Both of you are correct.

[entruil]

Originally Posted by Chaboo_Cleric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rock and metal can be traced back to the blues. The blues has such a large formation of scales and time it's ridiculous. Playing guitar in the beginning I played metal , now that I am older blues owns.

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