Are you a tranny?

[maerilith]

If anything because of the openeness of trans people now even a lot of the horrible shit we did to intersex babies in the past is coming to light and being fixed, ever so slowly in some places.

I read a few stories of people who were reasigned at birth due to intersex conditions, given hormones secretly, and made to live in a gender, when they didn't identify as that gender and expressed a different way, they were refused the right to transition and be the gender they were. It's mostly pretty well hardwired in most peoples brains if you look at it pragmaticly. You can't change that without lobotomizing someone. No more really needs to be said on whether it's ok to lobotomize someone because of their gender identity.

[Baler]

Maerilith are you from germany?

[thufir]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you saying that fear is a bad thing? We should all just go through life care free and let people who know what they're doing,. do the things that want to us and our surroundings?

if you are seriously saying you fear some kind of weird ts rebellion you are irrationally afraid, yes. if you don't think that's bad, you don't.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maerilith are you from germany?

I'm from the US, I don't know much of whats going on in germany, some good some bad. I know of one trans person in germany and they have a hard time. But I also know of other trans people there less in person who are rather fine, succesful.

I know there's some really bad people everywhere including trans ones, being trans doesn't make someone good. Not sure how people in germany are coping with all of it.

I think the scariest thing is someone who wants to speak for a woman, or someone with gender dysphoria, who does not. I've seen a bit much of that, and sorry to be mean, but some of the cross dressers / transvestites her in my support groups are just plain disturbing. Yet, no trans people will fight to delinate themselves from that because solidarity together, and freedom of expression is good for us, even if some of it can be dark, and in my personal opinion really sexist and fetishistic.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

best thing about this thread is the 30-odd people who voted yes in solidarity

fear of ts ppl says a lot more about the scared ppl than it does about the ts ppl

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[maerilith]

*someone who does not identify that way and cross dresses or is "trans" for non dysphoria/gender identity related reasons. Not to say it's bad to be non-binary. Just that it's bad when you speak for binary people and are not presenting as a more or less binary person.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you are seriously saying you fear some kind of weird ts rebellion you are irrationally afraid, yes. if you don't think that's bad, you don't.

You totally missed the meaning in what I said.

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not allowing them to choose for themselves.

This has a double meaning in how I used it. It is acceptance for both/any way of life. You only think I meant it in an anti <insert way of life here> way.

I have no problem with what ever people want to be. Just don't want people to confuse the youth before the youth can grow old enough to make educated and natural decisions for themselves.

The very fast that this is a topic of national perhaps world wide debate means that these ideas are being introduced to young audiences who have not fully developed.
i can't stop bad parenting but I think we need to look towards the future rather then what my physical being is now.

[Pokesan]

the transgendiers are coming to eat the world

[thufir]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You totally missed the meaning in what I said.


This has a double meaning in how I used it. It is acceptance for both/any way of life. You only think I meant it in an anti <insert way of life here> way.

I have no problem with what ever people want to be. Just don't want people to confuse the youth before the youth can grow old enough to make educated and natural decisions for themselves.

The very fast that this is a topic of national perhaps world wide debate means that these ideas are being introduced to young audiences who have not fully developed.
i can't stop bad parenting but I think we need to look towards the future rather then what my physical being is now.

no, I got your meaning. none of what you're saying makes you any less irrational. you obviously don't care, so I don't either. you can be how you like.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no, I got your meaning. none of what you're saying makes you any less irrational. you obviously don't care, so I don't either. you can be how you like.

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