Ranger solo

[RDawg816]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2 ) DEX vs STR - this was before I knew that dex and str were bugged for archery on this server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Bows use str here....so my damage was suffering a LOT because of this

Are they still bugged? Sounds like good info to have on the ranger guide to archery. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Wiley]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2 ) DEX vs STR - this was before I knew that dex and str were bugged for archery on this server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Bows use str here...

if the STR being used as the dmg calc for bow damage is a bug it will probably get fixed with enough evidence? the post in the bug forums seems to have some good links to the past.

another question, the wiki states:

Haste affects bow delay the same way it effects melee.

But archery uses one more kind of haste, stacking with the others : quiver haste (QH). It follows the same rules than all the other kinds of haste : only the best QH is used if more than one apply. To have a QH, you just need to have a Weight Reducing quiver in your inventory.

QH = WR of the quiver / 3.

is the bold true on this server? something like FBSS stacking with a Fleeting Quiver?

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by Wiley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

is the bold true on this server? something like FBSS stacking with a Fleeting Quiver?

Had a ranger test it a little bit the other day....and he was saying his held epic wasn't effecting the bow (seems to be the same bug as rogues are experiencing with their epics)....BUT that the haste belt was helping him (and yea it should stack with quiver).

Also, spell haste obviously helps bows too.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ivory is right. Bows are great dps. Ivory has a woushi bow which is an aoe proc. Imagine endless quad kiting never running oom. That is what this is and it works. Anyone who says different is just a sheep with no real context of what is actually going on. Just because this play style is outside your realm of what is possible doesn't mean it isn't efficient. Rangers are below Rogues, Warriors, and Monks for dps at the top end so dispel your belief that a bow can't work. It does. The art of archery is not just firing arrows - it is doing everything Ivory has described above.

That's a very very unique playstyle given by no drop piece of raid loot. You can hardly generalize "bows" talking about a particular bow. I use a windstriker with a sky cloak and fleeting quiver. It hits really, really hard. It's still bad dps compared to my melee damage and I wouldn't dream of using it as primary source of damage in a party w/o trueshot. Not that it's bad by any stretch. I used bows extensively face tanking to 60 solo before Velious. On a rooted mob it's a great source of dot damage while you time med ticks / regen.

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It hits really, really hard. It's still bad dps compared to my melee damage and I wouldn't dream of using it as primary source of damage in a party w/o trueshot.

Really depends on the party.

You've never been in unconventional groups? Where you have a mage and a rogue? Or something else that makes the conventional "tank and heal" gameplay fall apart?

That is where a hate-kiting ranger with a good bow can be pretty handy (especially one with a windstriker that stuns!!!).

The skydarkener is nice...the proc is pretty neat...but the ratio on it is actually worse than a bow of the huntsman. So really the only difference between the two is 100 damage between their procs.

I wish I had a parser so I could do some tests on my melee vs my bow ....I think it would be interesting.

I would like to see the level 51 ranger that can melee the 2 spawn of ice giants outside of everfrost and keep up with the spawns. If obviously melee is stronger than bows :P

[Cecily]

Well there's groups and there's groups*. Yeah, absolutely fire arrows while you agro kite.

[Wiley]

Originally Posted by demokatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now I'm 37. Any good suggestions on where I can fearkite animals apart from OT and Emerald Jungle? Any good spot in old world or should I head IC/EW?

where did you hut to get from the above too the below???

Originally Posted by demokatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm 44 now still having fun :-)

I've been in Icelad, started with cougars from 32-36 by the gnomish pirates then moved over by EW zone and have been killing dire wolves. Only issue with the wolves is they share a spawn with giants, and of course we can't fear kite giants, so after several hours it became slim pickings.

Now a yellow into 38, I'll probably stick out till 39 as exp is still doing fine but wondering where to go from there.. The wiki is kind of no help as a ton of the mob levels are wrong.

[Jimjam]

On my ranger I found the best solo xp was killing the entrance of CoM. Not animals, but could facetank the lowest tier of golems. Hill giants and griffons also gave xp pretty easily.

At 47 it is possible to solo sonic bats in SolB, but it is a lot of work.

This is with just cheap kunark weapons, haste and ~ivy etched kinda tier gear. No fungi or anything silly.

[demokatt]

I am level 51 now. So let´s say I sell my woodsman staff and get 5k for it. What dual wield weapons would u get for 5k that are as close as possible DPS? I don't care much for procs.

[Jimjam]

I don't know if it is as close as possible, but since you are early 50s, perhaps a Wurmslayer would make a good primary. Nice long delay for casting between swings so you don't lose too much melee dps.

I know you said you don't like procs, but maybe a lupine dagger would be handy for the off hand? Otherwise I don't really know.

I suppose if you want to stick with duel wield, late 50s you may want to swap out the wurmy for something quicker/newer (and obviously upgrade that off hand too!).