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Old 03-09-2016, 03:20 AM
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IT is cool, that was my minor in college, why I studied CEH, since I do server stuff still, for better security skill. I've met a lot of guys in IT jobs that didn't do college, just went for piles of certs and started doing it.
Seems to be how its done these days. Combined with a willingness to relocate where the money is being offered. Out towards Michigan they have a lot of under qualified guys coming in making 61-71k just because its some kind of State subsidy.

I grew up with a real powerhouse high school class. It was a private school with good standing, and it seemed like everybody was going to a big entitlement school where just earning the BA opens doors (like it used to, like its supposed to...) Me and a few of my crew ended up at normal state schools, which was good I guess to get some REAL life experience I can offer my son someday. Been an interesting time.

Having acquaintances and peers going to big colleges definitely fucks with you. It probably took me longer to get the focus needed to graduate from my state school because I'd always held it in low regard because I didn't have the grades to compete.

I think being exposed to people who were having big opportunities handed to them took some of the wind out of my sails. It took me a long time to start to form my own sense of self, and my own identity. Still working on it. My perception is definitely vandalized. I'm not jealous of anyone, and I have met people jealous of me (misinformed people or really struggling).

Elite private schools can be really toxic if you can't compete. I met a friend in state college who came from the same background I did. I thought he was bullshitting when he told me his entire class went Ivy league. I looked it up, and he wasn't kidding. I try to remind myself if this guy can mentally get over that, I can suck it up myself and stop looking down on everything.
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Old 03-09-2016, 03:39 AM
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yes, taxes are exactly the same as theft, good point my man!
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A Robin Hood tax system designed with the express purpose of redistributing wealth from people who've earned it to give to those who haven't is theft yes.
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to the mind of the individual that does not realise that history has proven that the poor will just literally steal everything from you if the government doesn't do anything to support them.

god forbid the bakery owner pays 1 out of 10 dollars in taxes so that he can increase his customer base by 800% instead of paying 0 out of 10 dollars and having all 10 dollars taken from him by an enraged poor mob.
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You really believe in framing it like that? That's unlike you to just say something that is verbatim Fox News without being a hipster about it.

In free market capitalist systems, and even in mixed markets, wealth will always concentrate in the hands of the few over time. It's a fundamental law of economics that having wealth is conducive to not only producing more wealth, but acquiring a larger share of aggregate wealth. The only way to reverse this is through government or syndicate intervention in the form of taxation, labor unions, labor laws, subsidies, etc.

Nobody is suggesting talented and driven individuals shouldn't be disproportionately and generously awarded for the value they add to society. But when the country is being systematically looted and driven to serfdom because the elite have become too adept at rigging the system, intervention is required. Making it so an entrepreneur only takes home $10 million a month instead of $12 million isn't going to deter him from doing what he's doing.
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I'm not talking about someone taking home $10mil a month, I'm talking about the households (not individuals) that enter the $150k a year bracket getting raped under the proposed system.
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Old 03-09-2016, 04:02 AM
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Seems to be how its done these days. Combined with a willingness to relocate where the money is being offered. Out towards Michigan they have a lot of under qualified guys coming in making 61-71k just because its some kind of State subsidy.

I grew up with a real powerhouse high school class. It was a private school with good standing, and it seemed like everybody was going to a big entitlement school where just earning the BA opens doors (like it used to, like its supposed to...) Me and a few of my crew ended up at normal state schools, which was good I guess to get some REAL life experience I can offer my son someday. Been an interesting time.

Having acquaintances and peers going to big colleges definitely fucks with you. It probably took me longer to get the focus needed to graduate from my state school because I'd always held it in low regard because I didn't have the grades to compete.

I think being exposed to people who were having big opportunities handed to them took some of the wind out of my sails. It took me a long time to start to form my own sense of self, and my own identity. Still working on it. My perception is definitely vandalized. I'm not jealous of anyone, and I have met people jealous of me (misinformed people or really struggling).

Elite private schools can be really toxic if you can't compete. I met a friend in state college who came from the same background I did. I thought he was bullshitting when he told me his entire class went Ivy league. I looked it up, and he wasn't kidding. I try to remind myself if this guy can mentally get over that, I can suck it up myself and stop looking down on everything.
hah I just went to a public school. My parents offered me private school, but the high school I went to actually had good technical classes. I took 5 semesters of electronics [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] had an excellent teacher, couldn't get that class anywhere else at the time. Couple semesters of programming though all schools were picking that up at the time (cutting edge hehe). Couple semesters of technical drafting (another exclusive class in the district).

Though put that all down out of high school for about five years as I did carpentry until the construction crash, though drafting was very useful at that time. Mostly worked on custom homes. Built my own in fact. Then went back after tech again which took a lot of training and schooling as I moved along. Telecommunications was my thing for the most part. Likely you are accessing this server by way of a program I wrote for a machine to cut out a part that got shoved into a box between point A and point B hah. I'm sure it's still there, and probably will be for the next 5 decades lol.
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Old 03-09-2016, 04:29 AM
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lol just go to a homogenous public school where you can get an automatic 6.0gpa valedictorian graduation as your white entitlement. why make ur life more difficult than it has to be
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Old 03-09-2016, 04:29 AM
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I'm not talking about someone taking home $10mil a month, I'm talking about the households (not individuals) that enter the $150k a year bracket getting raped under the proposed system.
That's going to be lowered too. Expect 40k to become the well off. Well, off what few are left making that much as the middle-class has been raped by intrusive government control. They make it sound all glittery unicorn like, as if $1 less from $10, but in reality everyone is getting screwed all the way down the line from exploration to consumption, taxed into the ground, visible and hidden.

Watch this 2 minute video of this mad hatter tea party nut job present some nonsense idea that would never ever EVER work. That nutbag needs to DIAF!

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Old 03-09-2016, 10:20 AM
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I'm not talking about someone taking home $10mil a month, I'm talking about the households (not individuals) that enter the $150k a year bracket getting raped under the proposed system.
I agree with the premise of your argument. Interestingly though, household income of $150k or more is only representative of the top 10%. The bottom 3/4 of households earn less than $85k.

That is a structural imbalance that ought be corrected as a matter of pragmatism.

Three steps needed to correct the imbalance:

1. Purge
2. Exponential tax brackets
3. Zero corporate income tax

None of that will happen though :/ Dems chase 2, while reps chase 3 and neither would ever pursue 1, except maybe Trump who also seems likely to pursue 2 and 3.



Trump 2016.
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Old 03-09-2016, 01:04 PM
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Sanders might as well just drop out now. Trump clutched Michigan. Make America Great Again.
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Old 03-09-2016, 01:14 PM
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Lmao at this hyperventilating because you just realized Bernie is indeed going to win.

Relax you will all get a pay raise when your min wage is bumped up to 15$ an hour lol
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Old 03-09-2016, 01:21 PM
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rofl, I hope Sanders wins the Dem nomination but the chances are slim to none bud. If Sanders got the nomination that would pretty much lock in Trump as president if he got the Republican nom.
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Old 03-09-2016, 01:26 PM
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo.../pres_general/

sanders dominates the fuck out of trump by 22 pts dude.
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