whats it feel like

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I only claim to know a very narrow slice of this life. Enough to know that spending your time obsessing over your own unhappiness and mutilating the external in hopes of fixing the internal is a fool's errand. You think I never considered going mtf? I coulda made a milli on sex work by now.

I have no doubt that some people experience what appears like a net benefit from going MTF. Mostly the ones who are able to pass and acquire Attractive Female Privilege, like Katrik claims to be (altho still photos are notoriously ineffective at revealing the uncanny valley effect even the more attractive MTFs typically suffer from).

Until you realize the true Way, whether in Buddhism or in common sense, you may think that things are correct and in order. However, if we look at things objectively, from the viewpoint of laws of the world, we see various doctrines departing from the true Way. Know well this spirit, and with forthrightness as the foundation and the true spirit as the Way enact strategy broadly, correctly and openly.

You laid down your life for Israel yet you'll never know what it is to be a warrior if you can't find a way to turn back soon. I'd be rustled too.

There is more to transition than sex work and the uncanny valley. I posted my old life pic before. Do you really think I would be happy going back to the way I was.

Do you remember the old runlvlzero from these boards. I thought a bit like you did until I explored what it meant to truly be myself. I did that with and without the help of "specialists" i didn't have anyone push or bully me into being a transwoman. I made that choice because it's what my heart and soul wants. Not because it's "safe" or "easier" or "society" or any other external dumbass reasons.

The thing is you think you are making a point... for me... but you really do not know me, who I was and who I am now. You just know a bit of my trolls and argueing on the internet me. You cannot judge me for being trans without sounding like a complete jerk.

You think I'm alone and isolated and uncommunicative now? LOL you have no fucking idea what it was like pre-everything-transition for me. And many others. Who do not wan't to do it for "sex work" and Zion.

And you completely neglect to mention or think or include intersex conditions, or female to males (who obviously aren't "trannies") your obsessed with a segment of society that developed and stigmatized transexual woman because it was the ONLY way until recently.

Now you can go to a clinic in NY like Callene-Lorde and get real honest to god help that's not going to push you into doing something you do not want to do.

It's better for everyone even the people who fail. Because not trying at all out of fear is like the worst buddhist philosophy I ever saw.

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't advocate trying to be a tyrant and control peoples lives and I don't sit here worrying about them or what they may or may not do.

so this is your argument after all:

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could arguably take the libertarian position here and say if someone wants to sell themself into slavery, or have all their limbs removed and be permanently transformed into a sex doll, or have bellows hooked up to their surgically added tits so they can be inflated/deflated by their Daddy, or whatever and if they were willing to pay a doc to render those services then it would be fine.

I don't agree with ur decision to sign a contract at age 18 forcing you to have all ur limbs amputated so u can serve in a sex prison for 30 years while the harem owner pays wild sums to your parents, but i will defend to the death ur right to make it. I foresee zero potential for horrific consequences.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't agree with ur decision to sign a contract at age 18 forcing you to have all ur limbs amputated so u can serve in a sex prison for 30 years, but i will defend to the death ur right to make it.

What I've been attempting to communicate is that this line of logic does not even relate to me or my experiences. OUCH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think my emotional distress is that you seem to be projecting the above scenario on to me which is entirely incorrect.

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I've been attempting to communicate is that this line of logic does not even relate to me or my experiences. OUCH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think my emotional distress is that you seem to be projecting the above scenario on to me which is entirely incorrect.

This scenario you claim has no bearing here is one that automatically occurs if I accept that medical doctors should be able to ignore the hippocratic oath with nothing more than the "consent" of the patient. Which is, after all, your entire argument. An argument that seems to be working just beautifully thanks to the profit motive aligning with it.

I get that you can make libertarian arguments in public without ever being directly challenged since that challenge requires fundamentally questioning USA state religion that market = good. But we are not in meatspace here and I can tell you: the market is an abstraction of violence.

Your being funneled from fighting wars for Israel, to decades of depression (sure hope those mystery injections had nothing to do with this, gulf war sicknesslol), to an ignominious end as the victim of expensive cosmetic medical procedures, did not happen entirely of your free will. That is an assertion I reject absolutely. And creating a profit motive for driving people into this pit of expensive self-harm is just about the most sickening thing I can imagine.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This scenario you claim has no bearing here is one that automatically occurs if I accept that medical doctors should be able to ignore the hippocratic oath with nothing more than the "consent" of the patient. Which is, after all, your entire argument. An argument that seems to be working just beautifully thanks to the profit motive aligning with it.

I get that you can make libertarian arguments in public without ever being directly challenged since that challenge requires fundamentally questioning USA state religion that market = good. But we are not in meatspace here and I can tell you: the market is an abstraction of violence. Your being funneled from fighting wars for Israel, to decades of depression (sure hope those mystery injections had nothing to do with this), to an ignominious end as the victim of expensive cosmetic medical procedures, did not happen entirely of your free will. That is an assertion I reject absolutely. And creating a profit motive for driving people into this pit of expensive self-harm is just about the most sickening thing I can imagine.

It's seriously not that easy to transition lol. It's also seriously not that easy to get hormones legitimately. Also it's way easier (and cheaper) just to ignore the doctors if you want hormones. Also the people siging up for SRS get mutliple letters, get multiple checks by multiple doctors to clear them and thats hard as hell too.

Not many people outside of trust fund babys say>.. oh well fuck i'm just gonna transition on a whim and oh... look i can afford GRS tommorow.

Transitioning is not about money and it's a shitty market to be in. It's fucking charity work even the rich doctors at the supurn clinic give away a lot of free and could make better safer easier money doing something else. I honestly don't know what motivates them aside from they like that kind of work over say... gunshot wounds in afghanistan.

Isreal isn't recruiting me into their IDF anytime soon lawlz. The best drugs to sell are def not estradiol which has been on the market a loooong as time.. oh and spironolactone which is cheap as fuck.


no if your going to say something like "Zeranol" and someone taking that because they have dysmorphia about "exectly how big their boobs are" thats a bad risk... but hey... you are chasing other peoples dreams again.

[Pokesan]

who's pic did you edit out

[Pokesan]

changed my mind

[Big_Japan]

My heart and soul wishes I were born a female too. Or a millionaire. Doesn't change the cards I was dealt, and doesn't make poisoning what I was given justifiable. And I make a pretty good male anyway.

Human consciousness is fascinatingly malleable. Drive a car for 6 hours, it changes shape until the car is your body. Spirit is nothingness homie. I'm in this for the final victory.

[xaxis]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My heart and soul wishes I were born a female too. Or a millionaire. Doesn't change the cards I was dealt, and doesn't make poisoning what I was given justifiable. And I make a pretty good male anyway.

Human consciousness is fascinatingly malleable. Drive a car for 6 hours, it changes shape until the car is your body. Spirit is nothingness homie. I'm in this for the final victory.

Spirit is everything. Physicality is nothing.

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by xaxis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spirit is everything. Physicality is nothing.

We agree. That's why I advise developing the true spirit rather than trying to reorganize the material plane to line up with the impulsive animal lusts fools mistake for their soul. That true spirit is infinitely adaptable; in that sense it is nothingness.