Rift: The Planes of Telara

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by Cyrius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it is a Devs statement of the RIFT forums. Did not miss you Phallax.

Yes you did. Dont be butthurt because I bring reality.

Beta is named BETA for a reason. It goes through stages, stuff gets added, changed etc etc.

[Cyrius]

Originally Posted by stormlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I take it you're hardcore. In my book, hardcore players like hardcore features. No in-game map. Dangerous travel. No quest indicators. You have to manually talk to the non-players to get information and start quests. Death-penalty. Instant travel isn't free (something like ultima online). Etc. All of these features require more time from the player. And not all hardcore players will raid. Many of them prefer soloing/grouping. By and large, I consider myself hardcore because I like hardcore features. The difference between me and you is that I recognize I'm niche. I'm a minority. You don't. You think that this is some kind of conspiracy to dumb games down when in reality all this shows is that you're a minority. If you can stop pretending everyone else is like you, you might find some peace. That's how I got over it. I just accepted that I'm a minority.

Half of the battle is just accepting who you're.

No not necessarily, but i want to be able to get some challange if i choose to. If you want to play a ROLE PLAY GAME freaking role play and not let the computer do everything for you. Simple as that. And i do not need to pretend everyone else is like me, because i know they are not. Good for you if you are a miniority, but i require a game to challange me. That does not mean i need huge punishments or no ingame maps, it simply means i dont want everything handed to me. You could draw ingame maps once you explored that area maybe, or be able to set PoIs on your maps where you saw a NPC or a potential quest giver, there are so many freaking possibilities. But no, you get a minimap with flashing icons that show you exactly where you have to go, take you by the hand like a 10 year old to complete a quest. That is not my idea of fun, its stupifying.

[Cyrius]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes you did. Dont be butthurt because I bring reality.

Beta is named BETA for a reason. It goes through stages, stuff gets added, changed etc etc.

The content is made, beta is a stage where you do not add 100 new zones after you had it. Obviously you have zero clue how game developement works.

And i am just quoting what the devs said they want on RELEASE. The exp curve will not be modified (Dev statement) and there will be 1 raid encounter (Dev statement).

But hey, you always belived what you wanted mister butthurt.

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by Cyrius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The content is made, beta is a stage where you do not add 100 new zones after you had it. Obviously you have zero clue how game developement works.

And i am just quoting what the devs said the want on RELEASE. The exp curve will not be modified (Dev statement) and there will be 1 raid encounter (Dev statement).

But hey, you always belived what you wanted mister butthurt.

Everything Ive ever Beta'd has when through stages where stuff is added. EVERY BETA. Just because its "made" doesnt mean its live to the public, just like how Rogean has Beta RoK atm.

So, obviously you have 0 clue on how game development works.

Cool, if the Devs say it, it must be 100% set in stone right? They have beta for a reason, to see what works and what needs changed, what the community likes and much much more. The Beta is VERY rarely, if ever, what is final release.

I just dont get why youd come in and shit up a thread because you feel the game isnt YOUR taste of games. If people want to beta and play a new game, fucking let them.

Or you can just keep arguing the fact and let people keep seeing why you are one of the biggest joke GM/Guide wtfe you claim yourself as, p99 has had.

[Crone]

Maybe they expect to release with only 1 raid zone, but do we know how big it's going to be? Do we know how long it'll take to master? If the devs remain even half as responsive to player reports/feedback, I don't see only 1 raid zone being in game for very long.

They'll realize that the content is getting burned through, and put in more stuff, or at least give an update of when the new stuff is coming.

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by stormlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's how I got over it. I just accepted that I'm a minority.

The game developers didn't want to cater to an audience that didn't speak up.. yeah, you end up being a minority when millions upon millions of people want to sign onto XBox Live and call each other faggots and play horrible quality rap music over their mics.

No one wants to create a good game when there's no one there to urge them on. Finding enough of a market for a niche game that's good enough to push the marketing/accounting department out the window and tell them to fuck the right off is next to impossible because everyone became complacent with crap.

Yeah, maybe hardcore gamers are a minority, but take a look at your words - inferiority complex springs to mind. "We don't matter" isn't what a young bright-eyed dev team wants to hear. Look at P99: You have people doing it for free because they love the idea of recreating something that was monumentally amazing. Even 10 years later we all log on to play this game whether we hate it or not, because it IS hardcore in comparison. A good portion would probably pay for it because Sony shit on everyone with their progression servers, and there isn't anything like this available on the market. A good thing came along and we've finally jumped on the bandwagon.

We have every reason to be disenfranchised - software publishing companies said to sit down when we complained, and we sat down. We lost the right to a share in the market of future video games when everyone stayed hunkered down in their parent's basement to beat Super Mario Bros 2 for the 10th time since they woke up.

[Cyrius]

Well i am quite sure that they will release an expansion rather quickly. But i doubt it will be earlier then 6 months from release.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah, you end up being a minority when millions upon millions of people want to sign onto XBox Live and call each other faggots and play horrible quality rap music over their mics.

rofl


In my younger years when myself and a friend played Starcraft 1, we'd sometimes spend hours on end going into channels specifically to irritate people, yell at them, call them whatever cutting-edge online insults we knew, and make sure you never backed down or talked rationally - just focus on how stupid or unredeemable everyone else was.

I tend to see small survivals of that same experience in every single online game I play. I wonder if people ever get bored of assaulting other people by means of their internet connection :P

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In my younger years when myself and a friend played Starcraft 1, we'd sometimes spend hours on end going into channels specifically to irritate people, yell at them, call them whatever cutting-edge online insults we knew, and make sure you never backed down or talked rationally - just focus on how stupid or unredeemable everyone else was.

You son of a bitch, I remember you! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just kidding, I never played Starcraft because I royally suck at RTS.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You son of a bitch, I remember you! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just kidding, I never played Starcraft because I royally suck at RTS.

Srsly.

If I met myself like 10 years ago, I would totally beat the snot out of myself.


Oh, and I suck at RTS too. :P