What Class Does This Group Need?

[Raev]

I think the biggest problem Wizards have is the lack of a dps clicky. It's just mind boggling that Shamans get the JBB while Wizards get nothing at all until VP/Velketor. A good wizard (i.e. one that plays like an enchanter) is much better than a wizard that nukes, pulls threat, nearly dies, and then AFKs for 10 minutes. But even a good Wizard is going to be way behind an Enchanter or even an Magician.

This is not to say that Wizards aren't useful; they are superb at AE, quadding, porting, and blowing up raid bosses. And unlike Druids, Velious does nothing to fix their XP group problems.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the biggest problem Wizards have is the lack of a dps clicky. It's just mind boggling that Shamans get the JBB while Wizards get nothing at all until VP/Velketor. A good wizard (i.e. one that plays like an enchanter) is much better than a wizard that nukes, pulls threat, nearly dies, and then AFKs for 10 minutes. But even a good Wizard is going to be way behind an Enchanter or even an Magician.

This is not to say that Wizards aren't useful; they are superb at AE, quadding, porting, and blowing up raid bosses. And unlike Druids, Velious does nothing to fix their XP group problems.

And by velious, with torpor and canni iv mana regen is so good that a jbb aint really that useful outside very specific situations. At 60 with torpor and canni iv for mana regen a shm won't even need to heal with torpor, can just spam chloroblast with all that mana.

[iruinedyourday]

Yea I s shocking there is no clicky like that for wiz in vel

[brecon]

OP: What class does this group need

Last four posts: Suggestions based on single-grouping POM, discussions about usefulness of JBB for a 60 shaman, and discussion of lack of wizard dps clicky

[Sebastionleo]

Also for mage (or any pet class) you can use your pet as a mana battery in raid situations where you can't use your pet by leaving him parked somewhere safe-ish and clicky reclaim energy on him for 700 mana when you get LOM.

[Raev]

Have you really parsed your mage epic pet higher than an epic/sos monk?

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you really parsed your mage epic pet higher than an epic/sos monk?

Yes. With no proc weapons. Then I got lifetap staves and double dex/double str (to raise his minimum hit) and he is one of the top 5 hitters every time. Parsers also don't count in mage nukes/DoT.

If anyone was curious, the DoT from a mage is a form of magic dot that stacks with all necro and shaman dots. 350 initially, 90 a tick. Nukes for 1000+ fire resist (which lands almost every time on level 70 giants like vindi, velk and such.)

His biggest downfall is that he doesn't have the avoidance skills a monk does. But he does have an innate stun and I use double splitpaw whips at puppets and its a huge damage mitigation.

He quaded once for 81,81,81,81 and proced on each hit: 143 DD, 143 DD, 143 DD, 83 stun. I was pretty excited about that one.

[Raev]

now you've piqued my curiosity. Can you post a few parses?

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

now you've piqued my curiosity. Can you post a few parses?

Sure can. I need to figure out how to get the logs into a text format. I parse a lot for my personal knowledge, but don't ever post it. Looks like he is doing more dps than a 60 epiced monk in most cases, but not when they have Wu's fists. Those guys are topping the charts consistently over him--rogues obviously doing the most and not considering them.

[newagemystic]

necro, FD + necro rez to easymode wipes for sure.